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That is not what I was trying to convey.I know Atlanta does not have an overwhelmingly more influence on Texas like it does say in N.C.or S.C. or even Tenn.
But during the OLYMPICS the South was grouped together and brodcast to the world.And many outside of the U.S. still use the Olympics in Atlanta as a point of
reference as to WHERE and ABOUT HOW the South is.They often get confused about Southwest and South.To us nationally,we realize that there is a major difference.Yet when one thinks of out West,they think of California,more so than Texas.They may think Southwest(rarely) but they will also think of South more often.Which here we are again!Texas is BOTH.So because it is BOTH it CAN NEVER BE THOUGHT OF AS THE CAPITAL OF THE SOUTH!Now I'm not saying that New Oreans or Nashville cannot ake claims too.They have strong support to suggest that either is acceptable.
Does that make better sense or at least show my reasoning?
I think from an international standpoint. I'm not sure if foreigners really relate Texas to any region. However, I could be wrong.
Yep. At my university, there were a couple of people who want to move to Atlanta, based mostly on hype (from what they were saying).
Yeah; This is pretty much what I was getting at. From the people I know who have visited ATL; the opinions are mixed about the city. My friend who is attending Clark LOVES it. She had me wanting to come check it out lol
Yeah; This is pretty much what I was getting at. From the people I know who have visited ATL; the opinions are mixed about the city. My friend who is attending Clark LOVES it. She had me wanting to come check it out lol
Well I live about 4 streets over from the campus(CAU/AUC).My dad was a Dean there for 7 years.Two doors down from me the "Kappa's" rent one of the houses.They have crazy parties where the police usually have to come and disperse the 200 people on a "city street" at 3am!I'm sure your friend knows exactly what I'm talking about.LOL!
I have this to say about "mixed feelings".Most Southern cities have that in common from people from other regions to locate in the South.It's usually so different from many places it takes some time to figure it out.I was not sure I wanted to be in Atlanta after I got out of the Air Force.I tried living other places because I felt I needed a more "cosmopolitan" experience that was more "urban" as well..Sometimes(although not nearly as frequently as it once was)I wander if I still should move to D.C. or Philly.I have done it already before.Philly is like a second home.But each time I go back to visit family and friends I say HELL NO!!LOL!! I still love it!Yet when I get back and feel the nature of the South,I feel more like an indivdual,not part of the "machine".Not like a "mouse running in the wheel".The only other place in America I feel some kind of connection to is New Mexico.For some reason it just felt like I belonged there.It was a spiritual thing.It was just too small for me to stay though.
Yeah; This is pretty much what I was getting at. From the people I know who have visited ATL; the opinions are mixed about the city. My friend who is attending Clark LOVES it. She had me wanting to come check it out lol
It's a generational thing. I'm 26, you're 19 or 20. When I was in high school. There were only two cities that people wanted to go to and that was New Orleans or Los Angeles when it came to movies. This was in the mid 90s to very early 00s. But Los Angeles was the hot spot in the 90s for Black Texans. Atlanta wasn't really though about. But for the most part, Texans would rather stay in Texas.
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But during the OLYMPICS the South was grouped together and brodcast to the world.And many outside of the U.S. still use the Olympics in Atlanta as a point of
reference as to WHERE and ABOUT HOW the South is.They often get confused about Southwest and South.To us nationally,we realize that there is a major difference.Yet when one thinks of out West,they think of California,more so than Texas.They may think Southwest(rarely) but they will also think of South more often.Which here we are again!Texas is BOTH.So because it is BOTH it CAN NEVER BE THOUGHT OF AS THE CAPITAL OF THE SOUTH!Now I'm not saying that New Oreans or Nashville cannot ake claims too.They have strong support to suggest that either is acceptable.
Does that make better sense or at least show my reasoning?
No not really because internationally, they don't know what Southern US means nor do they know what states make up for it. The olympics in Los Angeles didn't represent the West. It repped California and most importantly, LA.
It's a generational thing. I'm 26, you're 19 or 20. When I was in high school. There were only two cities that people wanted to go to and that was New Orleans or Los Angeles when it came to movies. This was in the mid 90s to very early 00s. But Los Angeles was the hot spot in the 90s for Black Texans. Atlanta wasn't really though about. But for the most part, Texans would rather stay in Texas.
No not really because internationally, they don't know what Southern US means nor do they know what states make up for it. The olympics in Los Angeles didn't represent the West. It repped California and most importantly, LA.
Yes they do.I know I sound like I'm boosting Atlanta.Which truthfully I am,but I am reasonable.It has been in MY experience that I can tell you many times about(back then and today) people knew/know of Atlanta for 5 if not one of 5 things:CNN,Coca Cola,Gone With the Wind,Martin Luther King Jr,or Jimmy Carter.Now I'm not saying they know details,but when they know of the South usually its either New Orleans or Atlanta.
LA and the West is different.The South is often thought of as some "monolithic" type entity.To this day even in the U.S.,it is group together as if it is all the same.People only after deliberating deeper only think of other divisions like the "Deep South",Southwest,Southeast,etc... When ever I read in the international press about Atlanta it has some reference to it being the capita of the South or most associated with the South in some way.My international friends before they came did not know a whole lot about the South(the younger ones).But they new about the Olympics and CNN.They all come here and the big letters of CNN in front of the headquarters downtown,is a major photo destination or "op".
This is what Lonely Planet and other international publication have said in the first sentence:"With five million residents and counting, the so-called ‘capital of the South’ continues to experience explosive growth thanks to southbound Yankees and international immigrants alike. It’s also booming as a tourist destination thanks to two glitzy 21st-century attractions"
So what kind of legacy was delivered in Atlanta, the "capital" of the southern states of America? BBC - London - 2012 Olympic Games - Atlanta’s Olympic Legacy Atlanta, after all, is best known as the economic powerhouse of the American South - the home of powerful multinationals like Coca-Cola and the parcel service, UPS BBC NEWS | Americas | Atlanta Vice: A new US drugs hub?(yes I know,not the most flattering article,but gives you an idea how important Atlanta is for drug dealing too.LOL)
It's a generational thing. I'm 26, you're 19 or 20. When I was in high school. There were only two cities that people wanted to go to and that was New Orleans or Los Angeles when it came to movies. This was in the mid 90s to very early 00s. But Los Angeles was the hot spot in the 90s for Black Texans. Atlanta wasn't really though about. But for the most part, Texans would rather stay in Texas.
No not really because internationally, they don't know what Southern US means nor do they know what states make up for it. The olympics in Los Angeles didn't represent the West. It repped California and most importantly, LA.
CA is easily more influential in Texas than ATL, but the influence from ATL is here. The hype and the publicity has sparked lots of Texan's interest.
CA is easily more influential in Texas than ATL, but the influence from ATL is here. The hype and the publicity has sparked lots of Texan's interest.
I just came across this report, and it's pretty interesting. This is from the Brookings Institute, and shows the top air markets from each metro area. This is a very good indicator of how connected cities are to each other.
These are the top air travel markets from Atlanta, Dallas & Houston and the results are from this year - so new data!
Atlanta
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
New York/Newark
Orlando
D.C./Baltimore
Los Angeles
Chicago
Dallas/Ft. Worth
Tampa
Philadelphia
Las Vegas
Dallas
Houston
Los Angeles
San Antonio
Atlanta
Austin
New York/Newark
Chicago
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Denver
D.C./Baltimore
Houston
Dallas/Ft. Worth
New York/Newark
Los Angeles
New Orleans
Atlanta
Chicago
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Denver
Phoenix
Las Vegas
This proves how "intertwined" the three are, and where the majority of business is conducted from each.
Just for fun, these are the top 10 air markets for the entire Country:
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale - New York/Newark
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose
Atlanta - Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Chicago - New York/Newark
Atlanta - New York/Newark
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - New York/Newark
New York/Newark - Orlando
New York/Newark - London
Las Vegas - Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - Phoenix
I just came across this report, and it's pretty interesting. This is from the Brookings Institute, and shows the top air markets from each metro area. This is a very good indicator of how connected cities are to each other.
These are the top air travel markets from Atlanta, Dallas & Houston and the results are from this year - so new data!
Atlanta
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
New York/Newark
Orlando
D.C./Baltimore
Los Angeles
Chicago
Dallas/Ft. Worth
Tampa
Philadelphia
Las Vegas
Dallas
Houston
Los Angeles
San Antonio
Atlanta
Austin
New York/Newark
Chicago
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Denver
D.C./Baltimore
Houston
Dallas/Ft. Worth
New York/Newark
Los Angeles
New Orleans
Atlanta
Chicago
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Denver
Phoenix
Las Vegas
This proves how "intertwined" the three are, and where the majority of business is conducted from each.
Just for fun, these are the top 10 air markets for the entire Country:
Miami/Ft. Lauderdale - New York/Newark
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose
Atlanta - Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
Chicago - New York/Newark
Atlanta - New York/Newark
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - New York/Newark
New York/Newark - Orlando
New York/Newark - London
Las Vegas - Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana
Los Angeles/Long Beach/Santa Ana - Phoenix
Yes they do.I know I sound like I'm boosting Atlanta.Which truthfully I am,but I am reasonable.It has been in MY experience that I can tell you many times about(back then and today) people knew/know of Atlanta for 5 if not one of 5 things:CNN,Coca Cola,Gone With the Wind,Martin Luther King Jr,or Jimmy Carter.Now I'm not saying they know details,but when they know of the South usually its either New Orleans or Atlanta.
LA and the West is different.The South is often thought of as some "monolithic" type entity.To this day even in the U.S.,it is group together as if it is all the same.People only after deliberating deeper only think of other divisions like the "Deep South",Southwest,Southeast,etc... When ever I read in the international press about Atlanta it has some reference to it being the capita of the South or most associated with the South in some way.My international friends before they came did not know a whole lot about the South(the younger ones).But they new about the Olympics and CNN.They all come here and the big letters of CNN in front of the headquarters downtown,is a major photo destination or "op".
This is what Lonely Planet and other international publication have said in the first sentence:"With five million residents and counting, the so-called ‘capital of the South’ continues to experience explosive growth thanks to southbound Yankees and international immigrants alike. It’s also booming as a tourist destination thanks to two glitzy 21st-century attractions"
So what kind of legacy was delivered in Atlanta, the "capital" of the southern states of America? BBC - London - 2012 Olympic Games - Atlanta’s Olympic Legacy Atlanta, after all, is best known as the economic powerhouse of the American South - the home of powerful multinationals like Coca-Cola and the parcel service, UPS BBC NEWS | Americas | Atlanta Vice: A new US drugs hub?(yes I know,not the most flattering article,but gives you an idea how important Atlanta is for drug dealing too.LOL)
I think the international community actually knows the difference between Texas and the American South. You have many different articles stating this. When many think of Texas, they don't think of the South as we know it. They think of the cattle herding, cowboy riding, horseback riding, saloon drinking, wide open spaces, ranch living, dry area like Texas with hardly any trees.
Actually just like the general population of people,not just blacks.Cost,taxes,natural disaters,government cutbacks etc...
Which is true but no demographic have left in the numbers that blacks seem to be leaving California.
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