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Old 01-24-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I guess we all need to get on the same page of what is "skinny", "average", "curvy", a "few extra pounds", and fat. It's funny to see different people's perspective on it based on how they perceive themselves/how thick or thin they actually are.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Up North
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"Healthy" has just become 21st century code for "skinny", but used so people don't get accused of promoting poor body image (there are way worse things for your health than being a little chubby but I don't hear any of these people addressing them, wonder why that is?). Loads of thin girls my age just get that way by barely eating; they have little no no muscle mass, and will either blow up when career/motherhood stress causes them to eat out more or eat more in general, and then maybe shrivel up due to osteoporosis and whatnot once they hit 60.




Yeah this also confuses me. On the one hand, our culture venerates big boobs, but then is also pushing all of these weight loss gimmicks, as if they didn't know they were made of adipose tissue ...

Hmmm. well healthy where I live is a real thing. You will see people jogging and working out all over the place. When people eat healthy and nutritious foods and exercise they generally veer towards being lean or thin.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Howard County, MD
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Hmmm. well healthy where I live is a real thing. You will see people jogging and working out all over the place. When people eat healthy and nutritious foods and exercise they generally veer towards being lean or thin.
My aunt exercises quite a bit and makes it a point to eat vegetables and whatnot, and even ran a few marathons back in the day despite having asthma. While I wouldn't call her fat, she's definitely not thin, especially around the hips and thighs. The BMI might say she's overweight, but she's probably way healthier than most women (minus the stress, but that's a different story all together), even many thin ones. And due to their genetic makeup, a lot of women would be like this even if they made it a point to be physically fit.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Women like to emulate what they see on the cover of fashion magazines. Unfortunately, homosexual men run the fashion industry and prefer women that look like adolescent boys (weak upper body, narrow hips, skinny arms and legs).

If you want to see what a real man finds sexually attractive, take a look at a common jack rag sometime (Club International, Penthouse or Hustler - not Playboy). The women in there typically have some meat on their bones, a traditional hourglass figure and an ample bosom. Men buy those magazines for one reason and I can assure you it isn't for sports commentary and politics.

I have also observed that women's magazines like Cosmopolitan go a long way to destroying a woman's self-esteem as well. Their covers typically show an emaciated woman with breast implants and collagen-injected lips surrounded by "how to please your man in bed", "20 sex secrets you should know" and the like. All I see when looking at the cover of one of these is a message that a woman's sole purpose in life is sexual gratification for men, and she better have a next-to-impossible body type to achieve it.

No wonder teen girls are so messed up.
Right on target! LOL! Reminds me of back in the day when one coworker (female) was holding a women's mag with all those "sex" headlines on the cover face out. Another coworker (male) looked at the cover and blushed bright red! Yes he did! (Kinda cute! )
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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I was under the impression that the OP is about the look of extremely low body fat coupled with humongous boobs. Some of the posts are not addressing that specific body ideal. A woman can usually achieve the "desired" cup size by getting her overall body fat % way up.. but then she's not "beautiful" because she is "fat". Or a woman can achieve the desired body fat % but then she's not "hot" enough because her boobs have gone flat as body fat dropped. What I'm saying is that a very thin body with giant boobs can generally only be attained through surgery. A look that can only be achieved via an operation really shouldn't be a standard of beauty. But think how much poorer plastic surgeons would be if women could live up to beauty ideals more easily and naturally..
Right on target!

Remember when breast implants were considered dangerous and caused all these health problems?

I BET that was an occasion for terror in some households ... oh boo hoo ... now the FDA will ban them!

Of course the FDA let some of the implants slide through as legal.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:15 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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I like lean women with curves - breasts aren't that important. It's not that unusual or hard to attain, at least during the prime breeding years in evolutionary terms (menarche to around 30). Women tend to get fatter after their 20s and usually a bit less attractive because they've already had babies, and now need to spend more time raising them than attracting new mates.

It seems to me that "lean but curvy" is the ideal for most men that I've known. Some guys like a more larded butt, black guys are known for that. A few guys really like skinny ones. And a few like powerful or even muscled women.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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I guess we all need to get on the same page of what is "skinny", "average", "curvy", a "few extra pounds", and fat. It's funny to see different people's perspective on it based on how they perceive themselves/how thick or thin they actually are.
Ha ha. You must be new to this section of the board. There are a dozen threads devoted to every one trying to get on the same page of thick vs thin, curvy vs fat. Here is the conclusion: 99% of the people here are or date supermodels that weigh 115lbs or less and have 0% body fat, washboard abs and have perfect b or c ups and reference waist to hip ratios. Any woman outside of this mold is morbidly obese and facing imminent heart failure and any guy who finds that attractive is a pimply faced geek who can't do any better and has to settle.

I could post a pic of an actual skeleton and someone would respond, "eww gross, she's fat!"
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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Yeah this also confuses me. On the one hand, our culture venerates big boobs, but then is also pushing all of these weight loss gimmicks, as if they didn't know they were made of adipose tissue ...
Here's some more craziness... You notice all the vitriol directed towards a non-fitness model type with big boobs trying to show them off right? Because we all know if you have a bit of a pudge or muffin top and you aren't featured on the DVD cover of the Zumba or P90X video you've got no business showing off your big chest because you cheated to get it. As if all women could Twinkie (oops they're gone) - as if all women could Cakester their way into larger boobs. Because there's no such thing as pluss sized women with small chests, right? Well believe it or not there are bonafide models out their with legit lean, tight and trim bodies that rock G cup and larger boobs. These women are of course put on a pedestal right? And any one of us could rattle the names of five or six of them off no problem because they are so mainstream right?

Nope. They get lambasted the worst. People call them freaks, liars (they HAVE to be fake) and disgusting. Hollywood is okay with a slim woman having small fake boobs. Maybe okay with bigger ones but you don't get to be A list anymore. But if you happen to be born with it, you get relegated to the darkest corner because natural large boobs are just plain icky or they're just lying or both I can't tell. How's that for a paradox?
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Here's some more craziness... You notice all the vitriol directed towards a non-fitness model type with big boobs trying to show them off right? Because we all know if you have a bit of a pudge or muffin top and you aren't featured on the DVD cover of the Zumba or P90X video you've got no business showing off your big chest because you cheated to get it. As if all women could Twinkie (oops they're gone) - as if all women could Cakester their way into larger boobs. Because there's no such thing as pluss sized women with small chests, right? Well believe it or not there are bonafide models out their with legit lean, tight and trim bodies that rock G cup and larger boobs. These women are of course put on a pedestal right? And any one of us could rattle the names of five or six of them off no problem because they are so mainstream right?

Nope. They get lambasted the worst. People call them freaks, liars (they HAVE to be fake) and disgusting. Hollywood is okay with a slim woman having small fake boobs. Maybe okay with bigger ones but you don't get to be A list anymore. But if you happen to be born with it, you get relegated to the darkest corner because natural large boobs are just plain icky or they're just lying or both I can't tell. How's that for a paradox?
This is very interesting.

I've also noticed that if you have large breasts you are automatically relegated to 'ho' or '****' status even if you're a virgin. My ex told me that he was embarrassed to be seen with my in public because I looked 'like a porn star' even when I was wearing a sweatshirt and jeans. I've had men tell me I'd be good for a roll in the hay, but not a relationships because of the way I look. In addition, many men seem to think I'm automatically 'easy' because I have large breasts, and heaven forbid I wear ANYTHING that is cut lower than my collarbone.

Most men want to screw the girl in Hustler or Playboy, but take home the woman who looks like Gwynyth Paltrow.

So yeah...being 'curvy' is great and all until people stop taking you seriously and assume you're a skank because of it.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:44 PM
 
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I was under the impression that the OP is about the look of extremely low body fat coupled with humongous boobs. Some of the posts are not addressing that specific body ideal. A woman can usually achieve the "desired" cup size by getting her overall body fat % way up.. but then she's not "beautiful" because she is "fat". Or a woman can achieve the desired body fat % but then she's not "hot" enough because her boobs have gone flat as body fat dropped. What I'm saying is that a very thin body with giant boobs can generally only be attained through surgery. A look that can only be achieved via an operation really shouldn't be a standard of beauty. But think how much poorer plastic surgeons would be if women could live up to beauty ideals more easily and naturally..
Bingo, this post wasn't simply a fat vs thin thread, but the ideal of being very skinny and having naturally big boobs. It's just not a natural look. People are free to do what they want but I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this phenomenon. Of course some naturally slim girls will get all offended and defensive over that but that's to be expected.
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