South Draws U.S. Blacks (construction jobs, transfer, to buy)

[hitek]

Originally Posted by jordandubreil

um no.

Um yes Maryland is a southern state without doubt. Its the beginning of the south.

[hitek]

Originally Posted by MrRedd

i personally think the south starts at fredericksburg,VA. but, i see why people call wilmington the south. If Baltimore is southern, what makes Wilmington any different?

No way, no how. Since when did the south start at Fredericksburg and when did Virginia get nothern? You mean to actually tell me when someone leaves North Carolina( a state culturally and geography similar to Virginia in everyway) Richmond or somewhere you mean to tell me once they hit Fredericksburg their up north?? I don't think so. You just can't go from north to south like that. There has to an area and thats area is Maryland.

[Indentured Servant]

I think that one can look at those numbers from the last decade, but not extrapolate forward from it. The next decade will not be like the last. The US has had an artificial economy for at least 3 decades now and most of the booming metropolises during that time reflect that artificial growth. What I mean by that is that a large part of the economy of boom towns has been boom itself. Developers overbuilding created thousands of construction jobs and thousands of retail job the result of developing residential and commercial real estate. In other words, jobs were created for people today by building for people and companies in the future with the assumption that a 100,000 people would continue to move to the area each year.

The housing market really fueled our economy in the first decade of the 21st century. That era is over and lending standards will not be relaxed as they were for a long time, if ever again. Now that the job growth as dried up related to real estate and development, there is no more boom in places like Atlanta and the boom will not return anytime soon. The area has become so sprawled out that commutes and quality of life has decreased. Add to this is the fact that gas prices will continue to rise considerably over the next decade and sprawled out areas dependent upon auto transportation will suffer.

Meanwhile, the disadvantages of the North have hit bottom. Many of the high union wages that drove companies south has been radically reduced for new hires. There an emerging fresh water crisis around the globe and many areas will not be able to sustain much more population growth and be self sufficient in supply fresh water to its population. Meanwhile, many Northern states are blessed with the Great Lakes. The nation is also becoming more conscious of the way in which our consumer choices ultimately impact all of America and hence people are starting to buy American more. The sales and profits of US automakers has risen considerably and more importantly quality surveys are showing that American manufacturers have closed or are close to closing the quality gap.

It well known that in order for a nation to be viable, it has to have a healthy manufacturing economy or it will end up transferring wealth to other nations as the result of running trade deficits. The South benefited from the wage arbitrage between the north and the south, but with the Industrial North hammered so much the last few decades, it has had to change its ways to be more competitive….and it has. The North still has most of the Industrial infrastructure in place to benefit the most, when or if US manufacturing makes a comeback. Also, its cities are generally denser and more conducive to a world in which gas prices are 7 and 8 dollars a gallon.

I think places like Atlanta will continue to grow, but all booms eventually come to an end. The boom is over for Atlanta and much of the South East, although it will likely continue for Texas because of oil and its proximity to Mexico. However, in the future, the Canadian economy is going to become much stronger because it’s solid fiscal position and its vast amount of natural resources. Canada is one or two with trade with the US and those states that are trade routes with Canada will likely benefit from it more in the future. For example, a new bridge connecting Detroit, Michigan to Windsor, Ontario is in the planning stages. The current bridge constrains the flow of goods back and forth. It’s a 5 billion dollar project and its estimated that it will created 25,000 jobs in its construction that will take several years.

[hitek]

Originally Posted by grapico

NOLA shouldn't be on there, it is an anomaly, they lost like 200k blacks in one week. They are moving back to the south for 3 reasons, it is cheaper, job opportunities and that is where a lot of their family is originally from. They would have never gone north / west to begin with if they didn't have to. There is a black exodus going on in CA and the Rust Belt.

Rust Belt = Blue CA = Red
1. NOLA
2. LA
3. NY
4. SF
5. Detroit
6. Chicago
7. San Diego
8. Cleveland
9. Youngstown
10. Buffalo

I don't think Detroit should be on that list as it is mostly still an African American city. Detroit has been hit totally by white flight. On the otherhand, Los Angeles has been the hardest city hit by black flight. The high cost of living, growth in latino population, along with increasely
black on brown crime being swept under rug, has cost the African American community to flee and look for better living arangements elsewhere.

[teejuris]

Many people want change, so if it means migrating from a totally different climate if people are from Northeastern, Midwestern, etc. states to warmer states, and vice-versa, that's what works!

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[Clyde81]

Originally Posted by hitek

Um yes Maryland is a southern state without doubt. Its the beginning of the south.

I think most folks from Maryland today would describe themselves more as northerners, as far as culture and lifestyle. Virginia & West Virginia is where it starts to change and both are gateway states to the south.

[hitek]

Originally Posted by Clyde81

I think most folks from Maryland today would describe themselves more as northerners, as far as culture and lifestyle. Virginia & West Virginia is where it starts to change and both are gateway states to the south.

I don't care what they think I'm going with facts, history, my time spent there and the censues bureau.

[hitek]

Originally Posted by jordandubreil

If your going by the dixie line nothing in Delaware is the "south". That dixie line story is outdated to me.

Umm no you just take away history and facts like that just to support an claim and agrument thats not true and to fit one's decription to please him or her. Its not an outdated line... Thats a slap in the face to the African Americans that went through hell in that state to make become what it is today

[hitek]

Originally Posted by Clyde81

I think most folks from Maryland today would describe themselves more as northerners, as far as culture and lifestyle. Virginia & West Virginia is where it starts to change and both are gateway states to the south.

Hmmm culture and lifestyle that would make the North Carolina and Virginia blacks northern too just because they love wearing timberland boots, yankee hats, champion hoodies, and alot of urban east coast clothes, don't wear what the hip hop community calls grills, goes around using up north slang like whats up son but its not.

[nycjowww]

Originally Posted by hitek

Um yes Maryland is a southern state without doubt. Its the beginning of the south.

no it isn't. upgrade yourself.