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Yes you could. You could also say that the states that border Canada, have a kind of Canadian feel. But, that does not make them Canadian.
Places on the border of any two or three places might have a flavor of the neighboring area. The there are areas such as Wilkes-Barre PA, in Northeastern PA. I lived there for almost three years. It felt very rust belt, very Midwestern, and very provincial. However, it is in the North Eastern Corner of a North Eastern State. So no matter what my subjective opinions are of the area, it is in the NORTH EAST.
There are arguably Rust Belt cities in New England, as well. Old NE Mill cities.
As an aside, recently while driving my son to college in Vermont, we (my DH and 18 year old DD) a noticeable difference in ambiance when we crossed the border from Vermont to up-state NY.
More light pollution at night. A difference in the architecture. Different religions. Different ethnic groups.
The geography and topography were the same. They still sold maple syrup on the side of the road. But there was a difference.
One was in New England. The other Mid Atlantic. But BOTH - North East.
Agreed. Placing Buffalo and Rochester in the Midwest because they aren't Boston or New York is ridiculous.
Yes you could. You could also say that the states that border Canada, have a kind of Canadian feel. But, that does not make them Canadian.
Places on the border of any two or three places might have a flavor of the neighboring area. Then there are areas such as Wilkes-Barre PA, in Northeastern PA. I lived there for almost three years. It felt very rust belt, very Midwestern, and very provincial. However, it is in the North Eastern Corner of a North Eastern State. So no matter what my subjective opinions are of the area, it is in the NORTH EAST.
There are arguably Rust Belt cities in New England, as well. Old NE Mill cities.
As an aside, recently while driving my son to college in Vermont, we (my DH and 18 year old DD)we experienced a noticeable difference in ambiance when we crossed the border from Vermont to up-state NY. More light pollution at night. A difference in the architecture. Different religions. Different ethnic groups.
The geography and topography were the same. They still sold maple syrup on the side of the road. But there was a difference.
One was in New England. The other Mid Atlantic. But BOTH - North East.
Since the New York and Vermont border is entirely rural, I am kind of surprised you noticed more light pollution at night. Do you think that is the effect of the Capital District?
There are also those that carve up states and say New York State west from about Syracuse as well as Western Pennsylvania are "Midwestern" (because they're "rust belt" or whatever) and think the Northeast is just BosWash + "quaint" New England.
Maybe. But western New York feels like it has more in common with Ohio than the rest of the Northeast. I'm rather aware a lot of the interior Northeast is "rust belt" ish but it's a different feel than the Midwest.
Yes. The Churches changed almost immediately after crossing the Vermont line back into NY. The denominations and the architecture. In Vermont churches were white clapboard and simple, with the predominant denominations being Congregationalist, Unitarian Universalist and American Baptist (the one that split with Southern Baptist over the slavery issue, and a moderate mainline denomination)
Even the Jewish temple in Bennington was wood frame and clapboard.
The predominant ethnic groups, as judged by the family names of farms, business establishments and private homes with signs were English with a smattering of French in Vermont.
In NYS it was different. Churches tended to be stone or brick, More Lutheran, Catholic.Episcopalian, and Methodist. Also more Evangelical non-denominational, as one would find in most US rural areas.
Ethnically, more German and Irish - Scotch-Irish and a few Eastern European names. Some English. No French, that I noticed.
The light pollution at night was not from the Capital District. We weren't even close at first. There were more and brighter street lights. More bill boards and signage in general. Less, quaint and just regular rural.
So there are places that actually seem to change close to a man made boarder. However, both states remain in the North East, but one is in New England.
Perfect example of what I mean! Even the Catholic churches in VT looked "Puritan". Even the temple we passed in Bennington Vermont was clapboard, although not white.
Delaware is beyond the Mason-Dixon line, but I guess that arc
means it is still down south to some people, while Maryland is
south and west of it.
Really, the south is wherever white people on the east coast
start talking with a southern accent, whether it is light or thick.
Do you mean the 12 mile circle of DE/PA border?
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