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Old 08-02-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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It is true that most black Americans vote Democrat. But, every black person I know is totally disgusted with illegal immigration. Not to mention, many black men have been displaced by Hispanic illegal aliens, and the unemployment rate is staggering. Sorry, but there is very little support for illegal aliens. Don’t be fooled by opportunists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They do NOT speak for most black Americans. In fact, I know black people who consider illegal immigration a greater threat than Jim Crow, and will not vote for Obama in 2012 due to his pandering. They will simply stay home. So, you would be wise not to count your chickens.
I have yet to see an illegal immigrant taking a job from a person that is willing to be productive, I am not affraid that my job is going to be taken by an illegal because I work hard. We have to realize that with the economic debacle, we have awakened to a new reality, if we americans want to be somewhat competitive, we have to step up to the plate and work for it, otherwise there is a lot of hungry and prepared people out there to replace us, I do not feel entitled to anything just because I am american.....
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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You're also not entitled to walk across internationally accepted boundaries without permission. You're certainly not entitled to violate American labor laws just because you think you are or you share a certain ethnicity with some Americans. Every single country protects their laborers including most Latino countries. Why are Americans not allowed the same privilege?
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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I have yet to see an illegal immigrant taking a job from a person that is willing to be productive, I am not affraid that my job is going to be taken by an illegal because I work hard. We have to realize that with the economic debacle, we have awakened to a new reality, if we americans want to be somewhat competitive, we have to step up to the plate and work for it, otherwise there is a lot of hungry and prepared people out there to replace us, I do not feel entitled to anything just because I am american.....
Thanks for repeating the pro-illegal mantra. This will only make the trillionth time we’ve heard this. Oh, I see you actually know illegal alien thieves. That explains your stance. But, do you know all of the displaced millions? Of course you don’t. So, please explain how you know they are all non-productive?

Employers don’t hire illegal aliens due to their superior performance. They employ illegals because they are willing to work for less, and are exploitable, period. Don’t you know they are the “new” slave labor? But, it’s certainly nice to know you endorse the decimation of the U.S. middle class. For “the race”. . . . everything. Outside "the race". . . . nothing. Right?

I suppose you also support outsourcing for cheap labor. After all, the workers in China and India are just more productive than the lazy Americans. The fact that companies reap mega profits from paying $.50/hr overseas is just a coincidence.

It’s interesting that you don’t feel entitled to anything just because you’re an American. But, you DO feel illegal aliens are entitled to displace U.S. workers, bankrupt hospitals, overcrowd schools, fleece taxpayers, and as a reward, they should have their status legalized. How strange.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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Employers don’t hire illegal aliens due to their superior performance. They employ illegals because they are willing to work for less, and are exploitable, period.
uh huh. Of course any of the people saying they hire them because not only will they usually do it cheaper but they are actually harder workers as well are just liars. Benicar feels it in her gut.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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You're also not entitled to walk across internationally accepted boundaries without permission. You're certainly not entitled to violate American labor laws just because you think you are or you share a certain ethnicity with some Americans. Every single country protects their laborers including most Latino countries. Why are Americans not allowed the same privilege?
You realize that many native-american nations consider our presence here an invasion, and a crime, and yet, we are still here....
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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As the illegal immigration debate heats up, an anti-hispanic tone has been strongly associated to it. Instead of keeping the argument about legal immigration many radicals curse the use of spanish, or spanish culture per se, as if illegal immigration and spanish culture are the same thing, the direct effect has been that the hispanic population has united more than ever before, in a common front against discrimination, and with hispanic-americans numbering over 50 million, the implicit is obvious, hispanic americans have the power to sway elections one way or the other, and since the gop has been so loud, they will pay the political price, with the added insult that hispanic-americans are the fastest growing ethnicity, and this change will have short and long term consequences....


It's not an anti hispanic tone at all, rather Americans are against illegal immigration by multi millions of invaders who happen to be hispanic and Mexican. We want them deported. We don't mind some fair numbers of legal hispanics who are law abiding, but these legal numbers are way over the top. Of course we don't like the use of Spanish here in several ways, would any country like it's language taken over by a foreign one! Would any country like it's culture taken over by a foreign one! This all is what is happening across America, especially in border states like CA. Would any country like to pay to support many foreign invaders in welfare benefits, education, health care, incarceration, social security, unemployment benefits to those who take our blue collar jobs! No, we're rightfully and morally angry about it all. You know nothing of the GOP from your words.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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uh huh. Of course any of the people saying they hire them because not only will they usually do it cheaper but they are actually harder workers as well are just liars. Benicar feels it in her gut.
You missed your calling. You should be on Comedy Central.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:23 AM
 
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You realize that many native-american nations consider our presence here an invasion, and a crime, and yet, we are still here....
This is the year 2011. Prior to 1865, it was legal to have slaves. Your point?
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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uh huh. Of course any of the people saying they hire them because not only will they usually do it cheaper but they are actually harder workers as well are just liars. Benicar feels it in her gut.
Why are you so comfortable with stereotypes about Americans and illegals?



Americans actually work the longest hours and have the fewest days off of any workers in the industrialized world. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant against all those evil Americans you so clearly hold in contempt . . .

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You realize that many native-american nations consider our presence here an invasion, and a crime, and yet, we are still here....
So what? If anything that proves that we should be even more vigilant about borders so we don't end up like them.

That also has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Every contemporary society has borders. You have no inherent right to come here without permission and forge documents. You certainly don't have the right to work here or drive here or collect welfare here without permission. If you do so anyway you have no right to scream racism when I ask you to leave.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Employers don’t hire illegal aliens due to their superior performance. They employ illegals because they are willing to work for less, and are exploitable, period. Don’t you know they are the “new” slave labor?
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You missed your calling. You should be on Comedy Central.
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Reinhart says immigrant workers are valuable because they work hard and are dependable.
Dairy farmers worry that proposed E-Verify law will kill industry - JSOnline.mobi

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This year, Mr. Bonacich employed up to 100 farmhands to pick a total of 50 to 100 tons each day, often in triple-digit heat. He speaks passionately about his employees — “They’re good people, hard-working,” he said — and plainly about what would happen if E-Verify were to become the law of the farmland.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/31/us...pagewanted=all

Clearly these employers don't agree with you but I'm not expecting any change from your Hannityesque ignoring of reality.
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