09-19-2014, 09:22 AM
Location: Ashburn, VA
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I'm an ESHS grad... craziest things that happened during my time there were all the bomb scares after the columbine shooting and then of course 9/11 my senior year.
09-19-2014, 11:23 AM
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...a self-inflicted wound dead in the woods or something.
Better that than a suicide by cop shootout...
09-19-2014, 11:30 AM
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Better that than a suicide by cop shootout...
I don't hunt anymore. But October 4th is the first day of our PA archery season. Many area hunters will be heading into the woods. Some are out now checking out the best place for opening season. I hope that they catch him before our hunters bump into him. He might be an avid hunter; but I don't think any of us could guarantee the safety of anybody making contact with this fugitive.
09-21-2014, 09:30 AM
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How has everyone's weekend been going with this wacko still on the loose? It sounded like they thought they had him the other day, but today's newspaper doesn't indicate that. This is the most current news I could find on-line:
Day 9 Of Manhunt For PA Barracks Shooting Suspect Eric Frein « CBS Philly
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09-21-2014, 11:51 AM
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I belong to a hunting camp that is close to the search area. I like to fish back there when I get a chance. I don't think that I will be going back until this is cleared up. But there are many hunting camps in the area. The cabins are easy to break into and some have provisions for the up coming hunting season about to start. I presume that the State Police have some of these cabins under surveillance. In Pike County alone I think I heard the news state that there were something like 14,000 vacation homes or vacated homes in foreclosure.
If this guy isn't found hunting season will account for many false sightings. There is also a good chance that a hunter will bump into him.
There are a few things that bother me about the news that we have herd. Nobody stated why they thought that he singled out the Blooming Grove State Police? I thought that a local (Barrett township police officer) confronted him about the outstanding NY warrant? The only job that I heard of him doing was the one TV or movie that he gave 'expert' advice. We do not know if he owns a dirt bike or ATV? I also want to know more about this war games group that nobody has identified - is there a reason they have not identified the group? They were quick enough to identify the Pocono Mountain Rife Team - that I shot on many years ago. I just hope that we hear more information in the coming weeks.
By the way; WNEP has better coverage than my Pocono Record:
WNEP.com | News, Weather & Sports from WNEP-TV — Proud to Serve Northeastern and Central Pennsylvania . They are quicker to air briefings and other information on the case.
09-21-2014, 02:20 PM
Location: Down Yonder
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The news said he traveled on foot 15-20 miles from the barracks to where they think he is now. Also, he was arrested and jailed in NYS for stealing. Why not go up there? Unfortunately, he isn't thinking logically with mental issues. Let's hope they get him soon.
09-21-2014, 05:27 PM
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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The news said he traveled on foot 15-20 miles from the barracks to where they think he is now. Also, he was arrested and jailed in NYS for stealing. Why not go up there? Unfortunately, he isn't thinking logically with mental issues. Let's hope they get him soon.
From what I understand; our police are looking very close where our hunting camp is located. There are thousands of wooded acres. Some of it is impenetrable - bogs floating over deep swamps, huckleberry and briars so thick that you have to crawly of physically push you body through (it's exhausting) - then there are the rattlesnakes, deer ticks and mosquitos. Have you ever tried to walk on swamp grass? Swam grass is like climbing the stairs in the Washington Monument. It looks flat and easy - but you step on a clump and your foot slides off - so you have to literally climb 'stairs'. Since rattlesnakes are very protected in PA today - that whole area has more all the time. There is a large den that snake hunters used to hunt in the old days - but not anymore. We are seeing more and more rattlesnakes and some of them are very large. The swamps back there also have deer keds:
Deer Keds — Entomology — Penn State University . They crawl on you like ticks but they have wings and can fly to get to you. As far as I know they do not have the infectious diseases that tics carry - but they still make your skin crawl.
It is one thing to go back and play in that mess for a day - it is another thing to actually try to live there. He cannot race home for a first aid kit, doctor's treatment or whatever.
I did not think anything of his parent's Jeep found with incriminating evidence. I don't think it was his plan to abandon the Jeep. Of course a picture of the partially submerged Jeep would help put down conspiracy theories. That was the second mistake that he made that night - the first was shooting at the State Police. I do not think this guy is infallible - he has shown himself to use poor judgment. I think that it is only a matter of time.
09-21-2014, 07:23 PM
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I am not normally into conspiracy theories but something isn't right about this. Why did his vehicle have so much evidence? If he is on foot how did he get away so fast? Some if this stuff is X-files territory but some of it...
Just guessing but I think what has happened here is he planned this for long time, the weapons left in the vehicle were probably excess... If he has caches of food and supplies this could turn into a very long situation. If you know the woods especially those particular woods moving through them quickly is certainly possible. He had nearly a full moon and when you are in the woods that is a lot of light. We used to hike through the night many miles just because we could.
09-21-2014, 08:08 PM
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Just guessing but I think what has happened here is he planned this for long time, the weapons left in the vehicle were probably excess... If he has caches of food and supplies this could turn into a very long situation. If you know the woods especially those particular woods moving through them quickly is certainly possible. He had nearly a full moon and when you are in the woods that is a lot of light. We used to hike through the night many miles just because we could.
The PSP seem to indicate that they believe it was planned over a long period of time, yes. I can't help but wonder why? I think back to the shooting at the township building near Saylorsburg, but that was such a crime of passion and anger. This guy seems more cold blooded.
Also, in addition to the points you made, he is a survivalist so he probably already has stashes of provisions all over the place. He could be running from house to house under the cover of night.
I don't think this will last. Sooner or later, a tip will lead them in the right direction. I just hope it is sooner for the people who live up there. I have a friend who hasn't been to his house in days!
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People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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