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How are the online banks doing it? The one I opened an account with did not require any kind of physical id?
If your bank is exclusively online they might be excluded from the Homeland Security requirement for identification because you cannot deposit cash, ergo you cannot launder untraceable funds.
It just one of those little ironies that for years the right has fought tooth and nail against the idea of a national id card and now suddenly everybody has to have at least one from the state (like they can't be interconnected these days).
Maybe some people do not want to have an ID card. Why should they be forced to comply with this unecessary edict?
No one is forcing them to have an ID, no one is advocating a "show me your papers" society (at least not in this thread). However, an ID is necessary to exercise certain privileges like voting, driving, buying alcohol, obtaining a birth certificate, obtaining a SS card, and all of the other numerous things mentioned in this thread.
To do many necessary functions, such as driving and getting medical care, you have to have an ID in this country. I really want to know for what VALID reason a US citizen wouldn't have an ID.
I know someone is going to cite cost so I'll go ahead and supply that because I don't see where any of them are prohibitive.
Most last between 4 and 5 years.
Just as a matter of curiosity, do you all really have to present ID to get medical care?
I've never been hospitalized, and I've had the same GP and the same dentist for decades, so I never have to present ID in their offices.
Do they ask you for ID at doctors' offices regularly?
However, an ID is necessary to exercise certain privileges like voting, driving, buying alcohol, obtaining a birth certificate, obtaining a SS card, and all of the other numerous things mentioned in this thread.
But of that entire list, only voting is a Constitutionally protected right.
Just as a matter of curiosity, do you all really have to present ID to get medical care?
I've never been hospitalized, and I've had the same GP and the same dentist for decades, so I never have to present ID in their offices.
Do they ask you for ID at doctors' offices regularly?
Yes, the first time you go to that office but generally not afterwards. Yes, every single time you go to the hospital, at least around here. I have been told that it is in part because of HIPPA laws.
But of that entire list, only voting is a Constitutionally protected right.
Uh, again you have proven your argument is a miserable failure.
There is no Constitutional right to vote. Nowhere in the Constitution does it state everyone has a right to vote.
There are 3 Amendments dealing with voting, yet they only state the reasons people CANNOT be prohibited from voting.
Race, gender, poll tax.
If the Constitution actually stated "everyone has the right to vote", then those who are convicted felons and dishonorably discharged from the military would be in court fighting the prohibitions.
Uh, again you have proven your argument is a miserable failure.
There is no Constitutional right to vote. Nowhere in the Constitution does it state everyone has a right to vote.
There are 3 Amendments dealing with voting, yet they only state the reasons people CANNOT be prohibited from voting.
Race, gender, poll tax.
If the Constitution actually stated "everyone has the right to vote", then those who are convicted felons and dishonorably discharged from the military would be in court fighting the prohibitions.
Amendment 14, Section 2:
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
The very wording itself is in the constitution, but it wouldn't matter if it wasn't there, because we still have the rights not in the Constitution, as protected by the 9th Amendment.
So yes, your right to vote is very much a right indeed.
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