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Old 08-13-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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No one is forcing them to have an ID, no one is advocating a "show me your papers" society (at least not in this thread). However, an ID is necessary to exercise certain privileges like voting, driving, buying alcohol, obtaining a birth certificate, obtaining a SS card, and all of the other numerous things mentioned in this thread.
Crap analogy.

Driving is a privilege, voting is a right.

Second, you do not need a state ID to get a birth certificate. To get my birth certificate I called the town clerk where I was born, and she mailed me one. No ID.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:26 PM
 
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Yes, the first time you go to that office but generally not afterwards. Yes, every single time you go to the hospital, at least around here. I have been told that it is in part because of HIPPA laws.
The only ID you have to give at the doctor or hospital is your insurance card, which I also did not ID to get.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:26 PM
 
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Crap analogy.

To get my birth certificate I called the town clerk where I was born, and she mailed me one. No ID.

Just out of curiosity, when was that?

These days an overwhelming majority of jurisdictions require ID to obtain a BC to prevent ID theft.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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Belarus, Iran, and North Korea haven't adopted 4th amendment of the US constitution.
Cherry-picking from a list of 120 countries. Weak.......!
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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Just out of curiosity, when was that?

These days an overwhelming majority of jurisdictions require ID to obtain a BC to prevent ID theft.
Two weeks ago, from a town on Martha's Vineyard.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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The only ID you have to give at the doctor or hospital is your insurance card, which I also did not ID to get.
Until you get prescribed a certain pill (usually an opiate or other painkiller) an ID is required to pick up certain prescriptions.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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Two weeks ago, from a town on Martha's Vineyard.
Cool. Which town and whats your name?

I'd like to get your BC without proving I'm actually you.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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Uh, again you have proven your argument is a miserable failure.

There is no Constitutional right to vote. Nowhere in the Constitution does it state everyone has a right to vote.

There are 3 Amendments dealing with voting, yet they only state the reasons people CANNOT be prohibited from voting.

Race, gender, poll tax.

If the Constitution actually stated "everyone has the right to vote", then those who are convicted felons and dishonorably discharged from the military would be in court fighting the prohibitions.
If there is a cost to getting the documents necessary to get the ID, as well as the cost of the ID itself, then there is MONETARY COST to voting and is a poll tax without the name. That is unconstitutional as it basically violates the 24th.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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Until you get prescribed a certain pill (usually an opiate or other painkiller) an ID is required to pick up certain prescriptions.
Again, not in my state. I have picked up my mother's oxycotin for her many times. Never asked for an ID.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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Cool. Which town and whats your name?

I'd like to get your BC without proving I'm actually you.
Birth certificate in and of itself is nearly useless.
But you continue to ignore that interference with federal elections by states with wildly differing conditions to vote is going to be challenged and overturned instantly by SCOTUS.
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