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View Poll Results: Should transgendered individuals be able to serve in United States of America's military?
Yes 101 52.33%
No 92 47.67%
Voters: 193. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-27-2017, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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For the transgender troops who are already serving ( between 2000 - 7000 according to one online article), it depends on the individual situation.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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Well, with this action t-Rump successfully distracted everyone from his son's treason, his tax evasion, and his failure to accomplish anything that he promised the suckers during his campaign.

Seriously, why do we fall for this? Let's acknowledge his stupid action for what it is - purely a distraction to stir up his base.

t-Rump pits Americans v Americans to distract us from anything that might affect him personally.

What kind of President, what kind of man, pits Americans against one another?
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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What people not in the military do not understand is that the military is black and white, you are either male or female and this is determined by your anatomy regardless of what you think you may be. For instance, why should females have to shower with a "female" that has a male anatomy? Is that fair to the females? What about people that join and then later want to make the change, why should the military pay for their medical procedures when someone else that joined at the same time develops asthma and is not provided any medical coverage and is then discharged?


When it comes to gays in the military I think the don't ask, don't tell policy was best. Again, going back to showers, why is it ok for a gay man to shower with a bunch of straight guys? Isnt that the equivalent of a women showering with a bunch of men or vice versa? No one is in there having sex, but its the point. I have no issue with gays in the military either as a have a couple of friends that are but being gay is much different than being transgendered. I personally feel that transgendered people have a mental disability and since when has the military allowed people in the service with mental problems?


Its not about discrimination. Before anyone jumps on the bandwagon they should be familiar with what the expectations of the military are and how being transgendered could affect that and others around them. Society loves to cause drama without knowing the big picture.
well said.

It has nothing to do with discrimination. But many want to make it a discrimination issue. Cannot win with these people
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:00 AM
 
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Again no consult with the leaders of the troops they command. No pentagon call no 3 generals and an admiral --- nothing. Cut blank kill all those careers. So what's next ? No trans in the fed govt?? Disgusting move
No Free plastic surgery for anyone (unless it's from combat wounds and only that part of the body) and no viagra. Get rid of the expensive burdens. I am all for that.

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Old 07-27-2017, 08:00 AM
 
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Nope Not a problem. For your information, transgender people are entitled to those benefits as well. Don't even try to compare apples or oranges. Those benefits you listed (GI bill, VA home loans) are open to ALL veterans.

but I do have a problem with the military paying for NON-service related treatment and surgery.

Not sure why this is such a foreign concept for you to understand.
You conveniently ignore the fact that Tricare doesn't pay for transition surgery.

Yet, if they did, are you asserting other service members aren't eligible for medically necessary procedures?
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:01 AM
 
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Less than 3/10 of one percent of the population likes to play pretend and "identify" as a different sex. I think the country can be defended adequately without them.
America Trusts This Trans Soldier With Top Secrets. Trump Doesn
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You conveniently ignore the fact that Tricare doesn't pay for transition surgery.

Yet, if they did, are you asserting other service members aren't eligible for medically necessary procedures?
You are funny.

We are talking about transgender SERVING IN THE MILITARY (ACTIVE DUTY)

Pentagon to Pay for Some Sex-Change Operations for Transgender Troops

Pentagon to Pay for Some Sex-Change Operations for Transgender Troops | Military.com

THE BOLD SHOULD STOP
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:03 AM
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I am not comparing a mental illness to civil rights. They are not similar and can't be compared. I'm drawing a causation between fear of change and making silly excuses.
I think you're confusing "civil rights" with race.

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Nope Not a problem. For your information, transgender people are entitled to those benefits as well. Don't even try to compare apples or oranges. Those benefits you listed (GI bill, VA home loans) are open to ALL veterans.

but I do have a problem with the military paying for NON-service related treatment and surgery.

Not sure why this is such a foreign concept for you to understand.
I'd be willing to bet that most treatment done by the military for the military is non-service related. Military personnel get sick and injured (in non-service activities) just like the rest of us. Having a baby, for ex, is not service related by any stretch.
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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You are funny.

We are talking about transgender SERVING IN THE MILITARY (ACTIVE DUTY)

Pentagon to Pay for Some Sex-Change Operations for Transgender Troops

Pentagon to Pay for Some Sex-Change Operations for Transgender Troops | Military.com

THE BOLD SHOULD STOP
Yes, I understand the topic. Do you understand many transgender people never undergo surgery?

If the surgery is deemed medically necessary AND other service members are given leave for medically necessary procedures, why is this a problem?
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I'd be willing to bet that most treatment done by the military for the military is non-service related. Military personnel get sick and injured (in non-service activities) just like the rest of us. Having a baby, for ex, is not service related by any stretch.
well

a medical retirement is issued when a medical condition is severe enough to interfere with the proper performance of your military duties.

So if their condition is severe enough to interfere with the proper performance of military duties, they WILL BE and SHOULD BE processed out.

Chronic condition that is severe enough to interfere with the proper performance.. is where they draw the line.

If the transgender has no such an issue, he/she can stay. Like I said, case by case.
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