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Old 11-26-2008, 02:05 AM
 
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Your philosophy totally ignores gays and lesbians who do have children of their own, not adopted, but children they gave birth to or sired. Are you saying they can't raise their own biological offspring?
The gay father and lesbian mother are not a couple under your scenario. This whole discussion is preposterous, keep on coming with it.

Any other type of idea you are talking about involves a surrogate which is artificial. Only the sperm of a male and an egg from a female can produce a child, and two homosexuals can NEVER achieve that.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:08 AM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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The gay father and lesbian mother are not a couple under your scenario.
Exactly, sometimes they have a single gay parent. Sometimes the gay single parent has a partner who helps raise the child. Banning gay marriage hurts the children in these examples, because certain benefits that would otherwise benefit the children are then erased.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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The gay father and lesbian mother are not a couple under your scenario. This whole discussion is preposterous, keep on coming with it.

Any other type of idea you are talking about involves a surrogate which is artificial. Only the sperm of a male and an egg from a female can produce a child, and two homosexuals can NEVER achieve that.
So what does it matter to you? Its not your life so stay out of it. It doesn't effect you.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:17 AM
 
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So what does it matter to you? Its not your life so stay out of it. It doesn't effect you.
This perversion is pushed throughout the system, and all people are then forced into it. Schools, day care, sports teams, parent groups, cousins, non-chosen in-law and required family situations. It affects everyone and anyone.

It's abnormal and I hate to think that I would by chance have ended up being a kid forced into that situation, or brainwashed at a young age to "accept it" without proper education on critical thinking about it.

Gay adoption is ABNORMAL and SUBOPTIMAL and everyone damn well knows it.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:55 AM
 
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Only the sperm of a male and an egg from a female can produce a child
Well, not necessarily...

Bone stem cells turned into primitive sperm cells

It may be possible for women to "father" their own children within a few years, or for infertile men to father biological children.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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This perversion is pushed throughout the system, and all people are then forced into it. Schools, day care, sports teams, parent groups, cousins, non-chosen in-law and required family situations. It affects everyone and anyone.

It's abnormal and I hate to think that I would by chance have ended up being a kid forced into that situation, or brainwashed at a young age to "accept it" without proper education on critical thinking about it.

Gay adoption is ABNORMAL and SUBOPTIMAL and everyone damn well knows it.
The US Constitution was made to protect minorities. It protected religious minorities and later amended to protect racial minorities and women. There is no reason that equal protection of the law can't apply to gays and lesbians. You can come up with no legit civil, scientific or legal reason whatsoever to allow gays equal rights in all avenues of the law.
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:39 AM
 
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Gays suffer more depression and STDs than heteros....discuss.

NARTH, its founders, and seemingly all its members are a bunch of half-baked religious wingnuts and sociopaths who lack any sort of honesty, character, integrity, or credibility. End of discussion. End of story.

If the father drops the kid and the kid gets brain damage, at least he’ll be straight. Small price to pay.
-- Joseph Nicolisi, NARTH founder and generally loathsome person
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:47 AM
 
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Summary: Recent studies show homosexuals have a substantially greater risk of suffering from a psychiatric problems than do heterosexuals. We see higher rates of suicide, depression, bulimia, antisocial personality disorder, and substance abuse. This paper highlights some new and significant considerations that reflect on the question of those mental illnesses and on their possible sources.

Homosexuality and Mental Health Problems
That article was written by a Christian biochemist for NARTH - a Christian anti-gay group of psychologists who promote conversion therapy for homosexuality. They are not accepted as members of the American Psychological Association because of their unethical practices and dubious unscientific "studies".

However speaking of dodgy studies, I'm sure that there have been studies done that show straight men who feel an obsessive need to post on forums about homosexuals, ALL have THIS in common:

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Old 11-26-2008, 03:54 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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A judge faced with this situation found that NARTH et al lack credibility...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/26florida.html
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:05 AM
 
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A judge faced with this situation found that NARTH et al lack credibility...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/26florida.html
Using NARTH as a reference about homosexuality is like referencing a KKK manual for what to do with blacks.
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