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Men can chose to date only beautiful women and that is considered perfectly fine. But heaven forbid that a beautiful woman decides to be selective and date only men who are wealthy; she is then labeled as a prostitute.
Yes, but realize it's only broke men with no money that never stood a chance to begin with that put women in this category.
Sorry, but there is no honor in being with a man who can't provide and you're both struggling.
OK, let me explain this out and tell you how this thread came about. A few days ago I met up with a friend. I am 28, single for 2 years (divorced), she's 27 single for almost three (never married). We are both educated, have jobs, attractive, take care of ourselves (work out), and are very decent people. A friend of hers came along, she's 25, did not finish college and seems to be enjoying life pretty good.
We were talking about many things and eventually got down to men. My friend's friend said to us that she got tired of dating losers, getting her heart broken, and having a hard time finding Mr. Right so she decided to "invest her time" dating a suggar daddy until Mr. Right comes into her life. She said that the men she was meeting were just interested in getting laid and since she also has her needs, why not get something for it. She figured that seems she was getting frustrated all the time while dating, she might as well date and get something from it in the form of travel, clothes, fine dining, jewerly, and the likes.
My friend and I looked at each other and laughed. We shared with her our less than impressive latest dating adventures and how difficult we were finding to meet a good man. The woman's answer to us was "why don't the two of you date a suggar daddy until you find your Mr. Right? That way you won't be alone and will get to enjoy yourselves by being spoiled."
I must admit that the thought of being spoiled sounds very enticing but at the same time I can't sleep with a man I am not attracted to, and I have yet to learn dettachement from sex. Once I sleep with a man I can't date another one during that time. Darn oxytocin Aren't all suggar daddies old men too? Like my dad's age? I am not sure if this is still in
my mind because I don't seem to meet a decent man, and VD is around the corner.
Has anybody here ever dated a suggar daddy/mamma? If so, how did you get into it? Pros/cons?
As others have stated, it is not all that different than prostitution. It's one thing to do it out of survival, but most do not. They are lazy and want to be spoiled. Women like that have a very difficult time when they reach middle age. Looks have faded and without a back up plan the world is a cruel and lonely place for a 50 year old cocktease with no ambition and no job skills.
There is a reason Coolhand is one of my favorite posters. Dude knows his ****.
I'd also point out that "sugar daddies" are, almost without exception, a very pathetic bunch.
Yes, but realize it's only broke men with no money that never stood a chance to begin with that put women in this category.
Sorry, but there is no honor in being with a man who can't provide and you're both struggling.
Your logic is flawed at best. There is a pretty substantial difference between only dating someone you are attracted to versus dating someone for material benefit.
Has anybody here ever dated a suggar daddy/mamma? If so, how did you get into it? Pros/cons?
I had a couple opportunities, but the women were so unattractive I couldn't do it. I didn't really want to either. I don't have much $$$, the past few years have been tough, but I can take care of myself.
I did date one girl who was very wealthy (both her fam and on her own), but that wasn't why I went out with her. She was cute and had a very aggressive personality that turned me on. It also turned out she had a serious drug problem that made her crazy.
I think part of dating, especially in your 20s, is to find out what you like. I have no problem with a woman wanting a guy to pay for the first few dates, hold the door for them, take them to nice places, etcetera. I think that's how it should be. So if a woman gets tired of guys treating them poorly emotionally and being cheap, they may say "hey, I want to see what it's like to have a rich guy buy me stuff because I'm sick of guys who just want sex and are broke", and I think that's understandable.
In the end, I think many women who do find a sugar-daddy then realize they want a good balance...a guy they like and are attracted to who also has some ambition and success (or at least potential) in their career.
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Why is there such a double standard for women?
Men can chose to date only beautiful women and that is considered perfectly fine. But heaven forbid that a beautiful woman decides to be selective and date only men who are wealthy; she is then labeled as a prostitute.
Agreed. A lot of men do the opposite of finding a sugar-daddy if they are sick of flaky women....they try to bang as many women as possible without having to pay for dates.
Daddy is spoiling them rotten. Daddy is buying them gifts and jewelry. Daddy pays their way fully and completely. Daddy gives them everything their little hearts desire and all daughter has to do is behave dirty and perverted hiding secrets behind mommy's back for them. What you are saying is that it alright to childmolest? To me sugardaddy is the same as a childmolester.
Daddy is spoiling them rotten. Daddy is buying them gifts and jewelry. Daddy pays their way fully and completely. Daddy gives them everything their little hearts desire and all daughter has to do is behave dirty and perverted hiding secrets behind mommy's back for them. What you are saying is that it alright to childmolest? To me sugardaddy is the same as a childmolester.
My question with the sugar daddy thing has always been...how do you get the money out of the guy?? Do you just come right out and say, I'll do X if you buy me a mink coat? I dunno, I've never been the kind of girl that guys shower with gifts so I need to learn this ~
Well first of all there are all types of guys in all types of financial situations. And it helps if there is a big difference like you are young and the guy is 50+, fat, and bald.
For finances, one guy could be making a million dollars a year, yet have a million + $500,000 in expenses - and be beyond broke! Not have ANY extra spending money.
Another could be making $50,000 a year, have everything paid for (very few expenses) and have $1500 a month for "fun money".
So just because they have a big fancy car and house, that does not mean they have extra spending money. Someone with a not so fancy car might have more spending money!
You need to figure that out yourself. (If they have any extra spending money and how much.) If you can get them to take you out to fancy restaurants several times a week or every night. Lunch too. Then that is a good indication there is plenty of extra spending money there.
If you want to go out to eat and they say they can't afford it or their credit card is charged up. Or want to go to McDonalds, that would be a good clue there is not much spare money.
Then there are different types of guys who have "spare" money. Some are "giving" types. Some will only give if they get something in return. Others are cheap and will not spend a nickel on anyone.
With a "giving type" who has lots of "spare money", you just simply have to say you don't have enough money to pay your rent this month. Then it will be paid for. Or that your car needs to be fixed and you don't have the money, then it will be paid for. No problem. You need something, it is taken care of!
With the want "something in return" types, might need to "train" them... If they give you something - then spend a lot of time with them after that and lots of hugs and kisses. If the spending drops off, then be more "busy" and can't visit or talk with them as much. They will quickly learn that the path to happiness is by giving to the less fortunate on a regular basis!
As for the cheapskates, don't bother!
Actually for the fun of it, I just searched google.com for the words...
getting money out of men
...and there are ALL sorts of pages on this. Here is another...
Promiscuity is still prominent. Sugar daddies usually expect alot more than a typical man who hires a prostitute is. They expect higher quality sex and a woman who is willing to do anything as well as anyone they tell them too in return for their money.
Not necessarily, and even if so, you don't haveta.
Now I'm not rich, and not yet 30, so there is NO WAY I'd EVER qualify as a SD.
However, I DID live VERY frugally when I was first starting out, and have very low overhead.
As such I've dated women who didn't have $ available.
When I paid for our weekend getaway, or (In a couple distance relationships) gave them gas money to come see me for the weekend, or paid for dinner etc
Did/does that make me a SD?
I've also dated women older/more financially secure than me.
(I've dated 7 years down and 13 years up)
When one wanted to go to the casino's for a week and I told her I didn't have the money, and she covered the trip... does that make me a SB?
Starting tomorrow I'll have an income of $6,500/Month+ housing. (Not counting overtime)
New town, I date women all over the map (And tend to spoil them all if possible)
If I want to go do something on the weekend and she can't afford it, I WILL pay for it...
To some here, this will make me a SD.
I disagree, but it fits some of the descriptions I see here.
The women won't be dating me for my income, because I don't look it. but 4-6 months into the relationship it's possible an outsider would think so.
Things aren't black and white. If your 22 and hot and dating a fat 55 year old that's one thing.
If your dating a 29 year old (Like me) who just wants to do things...
That's another.
I've never expected 'higher quality sex' or ANYTHING dependent on what I've given women, (And this includes clothing, jewelry, etc.)
The Defacto state of Male/Female marriage has overwhelmingly been no different than a Sugar daddy/baby relationship.
Stay at home wife or SO is no different than a Sugar baby. She doesn't work, the husband provides the money.
Ive had girlfriends that were not doing well financially and helped them out with rent or paid for a flight and hotel for a vacation. Is that a Sugar Daddy/Sugar baby relationship
One thing is true, if you do want a man or woman to take care of you you better be in the top few percent in Looks.
Wow. It's amazing how people know so little about marriage. Even if you've never experienced it, you'd think people would be able to apply reason. Your post is actually gross. I could spend some time explaining marriage to you, but why waste the time.
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. Darn oxytocin
Aren't all suggar daddies old men too? Like my dad's age? 
I am not sure if this is still in
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