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What you are like on the inside shows on the face. I believe this 100%
If you are nasty, ugly, angry, resentful.....it shows.
If you are sweet, kind, loving, happy....that shows too!
I used to think this way too, that your internal beauty is somehow externalized. However, Ive come accross many examples where this couldnt be any mopre false. There are plenty of beautiful people who are completely rotten an the inside and vice versa. Cant judge a book by its cover. With that said, I dont mind a little bit of makeup or a certain type of revealing clothing, but am completely turned off by fake boobs, plastic surgery alterations and even botox - when I can tell the difference. I dont go to places like Miami or Vegas, because theyre both fake boob capitols - and I just find those gross.
I never said I found the male form more pleasing to look at necessarily - it depends on the male and female. But from a purely aesthetic point of view, I think a sculpted male body is definitely every bit as beautiful as a curvaceous female nude. Both are beautiful in their own ways.
Yes, I totally understand how you might find the female form more aesthetically pleasing - but for some women it's gone too far. I won't get into that, however. As you are turned on by the male body, I'm turned on by the female body...I don't know why many men can't seem to separate the two in their minds.
Society has put the female form on a pedestal - it's celebrated, scantily clad, even grotesquely 're-modelled'. The male form is much to a MUCH smaller extent, and really, the idea that a straight women would be grossed out by a man in speedos or a male nude is just very, very weird.
So? There are lots of things that society does that aren't completely fair to either sex. Who cares?
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Okay - you really need to get a grip. I don't understand how you can be attracted to women and be so jealous of them at the same time.
I think the female body is more pleasing to look at than the male body. To me, the female body is softer and more graceful than the male body. I think that seeing a strong man makes me feel safer and more protected than a strong women. If someone expressed an opinion that was contrary to mine on these two subjects - I would be perfectly okay with that. Obviously - you think that the male form is more pleasing - and that's totally fine with me. I'm not going to start threads bashing men and saying how they are overrated and ugly and that I'm sick of hearing people talk about how hot men are. And I'm certainly not going to say that men aren't objectively anything - because I LOVE men. I'm a straight woman who loves men. I love they way they look, they act, they laugh, they think, etc. I love my husband. He IS all that. He is everything. And I can think this about him with out jealousy or bitterness. I can think this with out thinking - but what about me? Aren't I all that, too?
Once again - get over it. You will never have a successful relationship with a woman if you indulge in these ridiculous thoughts.
I think we've been culturally conditioned to see the female form as aesthetically preferable, in a way. Not saying it's wrong, but everything is a result of the environment we grow up in.
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I don't recall women looking like men. But I'd have to agree a lot of women look really good at first glance, and once you see them up close AND interact with them, you see they are just normal. But for me, it's not that I'm disappointed once that happens, but rather realize they aren't anything to be intimidated by, that I should have known it all along, and they aren't part of whatever stuck-up stereotype I might have fleetingly thought they might be.
Actually that's me too. It's not like, 'damn girl, you actually ugly!' More like, she's actually kinda average (not in a good or bad way), whaddaya know. And I've been attracted to gals like that, for me attraction isn't purely physical.
I think we've been culturally conditioned to see the female form as aesthetically preferable, in a way. Not saying it's wrong, but everything is a result of the environment we grow up in.
I think, in a way, that this is an example of both men and women internalizing the "male gaze," which the idea that women exist to be looked at by men, and that the perspective of the straight guy is the default.
I think we've been culturally conditioned to see the female form as aesthetically preferable, in a way. Not saying it's wrong, but everything is a result of the environment we grow up in.
But I still don't understand why this makes you so bitter and jealous towards women? This doesn't have anything to do with you. A woman who is attracted to you will still be attracted to you regardless of how society views men and women.
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I think, in a way, that this is an example of both men and women internalizing the "male gaze," which the idea that women exist to be looked at by men.
Definitely. I've been attacked on this forum for merely expressing my opinion that women put too much stock in being 'seen', looking good and stuff at the expense of other things. More something a feminist would say, if anything.
I'm not crusading against anything, but I can't even raise this observation without being labelled a hater of women.
As much as I may not understand the experience of being a woman, you don't understand the experience of being a man either. Such is our fate.
I'm not trying to understand what it's like being a man - merely trying to understand why YOU are letting all these things affect you and embitter you towards women.
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But I still don't understand why this makes you so bitter and jealous towards women? This doesn't have anything to do with you. A woman who is attracted to you will still be attracted to you regardless of how society views men and women.
I'm not really bitter or jealous towards women - okay maybe slightly sometimes, but honestly, it's not like it dominates my thinking. My relations with women in actual real life are congenial and I don't secretly seethe at them: in fact those thoughts never cross my mind.
It's more this common belief held by men and women where sex is mostly associated with women. I just think it's caused a slightly warped paradigm of sexuality. And that affects dating in this modern age. It would take me a long time to fully explain it.
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