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Old 09-10-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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And I agree with that but the interesting thing here is that before getting married many married men complain that their wife was seductive, hot, kinky, adventurous, took the initiative, was not depressed or exhausted for sex, no headaches, etc. but onces they got married sex just disappeared. Are only men to blame here? The double standard is that when there are those very rare cases where it is the other way around, it's still the man who gets blamed.
I'd suspect the married men who tell you about these situations are only giving you part of the story about what is going on in the marriage.

I didn't live with my spouse prior to marriage, so once we were married we had many more opportunities to enjoy that part of marriage.

 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Maybe all men don't expect. But many women get peeved when their guy flaps one off to fill his need, she then feels like she was cheated on because a porn girl on a video or photo. At least more than a few women have expressed that on this forum.
I love porn so and masturbation, so I guess that doesn't apply. If I cant see him/give him what he wants, hes more then welcome to other outlets.
 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Are we all in a consensus that married mothers are unequivocally the busiest people on earth and therefore justified if they allow other things to fall by the wayside?

I'm pretty sure that logic would not fly in any other aspect of life.
Uh no.

A married woman with kids who does not have a partner who that is truly pitching in is justified to a degree, since something's gotta give.

But if there is help, it is manageable.
 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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Then you're a good man and exempt from my previous comment.
Hehehe, that's very kind of you.

I have to say that I don't understand men not wanting to bring a women to 'climax' without coming themselves.. It's not like your not having fun and at a later time the situation may well be reversed and what man doesn't like that?

Sex is supposed to be fun, for both parties (or however many are involved).. If you just take without giving then at some point the giving will stop, it's not exactly complicated.
 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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That could be but then again why is it that she didn’t reject her man before they got married and had sex often. All of a sudden, no more sex for the man once they got married. Didn’t she enjoy sex before?
Possible she didn't reject her man before they got married because the sex before marriage wasn't unsatisficatory.

It's a reasonable possiblity as it seems for many men:
Before marriage sex is a mutual consensual activity done out of desire to give and get pleasre.

During marriage sex is owed to him unless there's a good reason implying her lack of consent/desire isn't a good reason. He doesn't have to maintain attraction or consider her desire it's a given she's putting out because they're married. If she doesn't want sex then she womans up ala shuts up and puts out there's no resolving why she doesn't want sex much less considering there's an issue other than she dared to say no.

Likely many people are on their best behavior before marriage and on their worst behavior during marriage.
 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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And I agree with that but the interesting thing here is that before getting married many married men complain that their wife was seductive, hot, kinky, adventurous, took the initiative, was not depressed or exhausted for sex, no headaches, etc. but once they got married sex just disappeared. Are only men to blame here? The double standard is that when there are those very rare cases where it is the other way around, it's still the man who gets blamed.
How often does this really happen as a percentage of marriages? Isn't it more like once there's a baby, sex disappears?
 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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How often does this really happen as a percentage of marriages? Isn't it more like once there's a baby, sex disappears?
That's the way I've always heard it too.
 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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And I agree with that but the interesting thing here is that before getting married many married men complain that their wife was seductive, hot, kinky, adventurous, took the initiative, was not depressed or exhausted for sex, no headaches, etc. but onces they got married sex just disappeared. Are only men to blame here? The double standard is that when there are those very rare cases where it is the other way around, it's still the man who gets blamed.
I equally blame women. No false advertising ladies. If you cant keep your man happy and work, go to school, have kids, be in PTA, carpool etc etc etc, somethings gotta give. I wouldn't give up good sex for anything. I think thats the problem with a lot of women. We are taught that there are more important things in life and sometimes we really need to go back and remember the basics.

You may have wanted kids, but remember it took a man and sex to get them here....DONT FORGET THAT (aka your man).
 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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Sex is supposed to be fun, for both parties (or however many are involved).. If you just take without giving then at some point the giving will stop, it's not exactly complicated.
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!
 
Old 09-10-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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And I agree with that but the interesting thing here is that before getting married many married men complain that their wife was seductive, hot, kinky, adventurous, took the initiative, was not depressed or exhausted for sex, no headaches, etc. but onces they got married sex just disappeared. Are only men to blame here? The double standard is that when there are those very rare cases where it is the other way around, it's still the man who gets blamed.
Bit curious as to where do see people blaming men here.

More curious as to if you consider the possibility that marriage created depression, exhausation, and headaches for some women and the sex lost it's appeal due to complaceny and people often behaving their worst. I don't doubt being seductive is a concern when you think other matters are more pressing and fulfilling then sex.
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