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Old 03-30-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Intellectual Hippies. I do not care for Yuppie self-centered money and appearance crazed fools. I also do not care to try to have an interested conversation with Sports and Beer obsessed Rednecks.
I agree with you, Greg.

I completely believe in "live and let live" as long as someone else's choices don't interfere with my choices!
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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"Obsessing"? Perhaps. But isn't "yuppie" a sort of acronym for "young, urban professional"? If that is correct, then "obsessing" is not an automatic go-with, even if it is quite common. To be a young, urban professional implies a certain level of education and financial comfort, and from that it is easy to see other traits included by stereotype. Isn't a lot of the negativity rooted in jealousy? Young, urban professionals certainly do not all share the same values.
Well said. Not sure about the jealousy, but young urban professionals (who also age), yes.

As Boogiesmom asks, please define the other two.
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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A redneck--Makes the worst kind of neighbor. Loud country music, has a pack of dogs and could be a backyard breeder who sells the dogs, eats barbeque, has a lot of raggedy dressed kids, is uneducated, drives a pickup truck, has guns, is best off living in the woods or a very small town where he can do whatever he wants. If you are unlucky enough to have one as a neighbor, as I did--they show absolutely no respect or consideration because they value the right to do whatever they want and when they want. If you ask them to be quiet, they will swear at you. Their kids will swear at you. The state motto for New Hampshire would suit them well: Live Free or Die.
But....but...there are those with what some of you would say have "redneck values" who are clean, dress well (cowboy gear?), nice clean homes, drive a gigantic truck on gigantic tires, have a rifle or two in the pickup, listen to country music, go to church, hate certain kinds of people, barbecue in their backyards, go to church, have family picnics, will come over with a casserole if you're ill, volunteer as border patrols, and don't want to be bothered by YOU as their neighbor, lol.

See how complicated it gets when we try to define kinds of people?
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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I would consider it a far reach to call the extreme environmentalists hippies, they are more often the hypocritical yuppies, who fight for environmental causes but drive a Lexus to the protests. The modern hippie may be a CEO or high level manager, but still listens to 60s music, grows their own vegetables in their garden, is laid back, dresses very casually when not at work, is open to new, different ideas.
That's how I see it too, maybe it's a Seattle thing.

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I would vote for cowboys, but since "hippies" have taken over my quiet small mountain town not much of a choice. Nothing like seeing a 70 year old man in a pony tail and tie die tshirt trying to re-live the 1960's.
Sounds like a funny guy, I'd be okay with that.
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:47 AM
 
Location: P.C.F
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Yuppies, but not because I gravitate toward them and not because I am one. It's that I relate to hippies and rednecks even less.

But I do know quite a bit about redneck culture. Do you know how to identify the bride at a redneck wedding? She's the one wearing the cleanest T-shirt. And do you know how rednecks define intellectuals? They're people who can read without moving their lips.
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: P.C.F
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Definitely not rednecks. I would choose yuppies. Jacked up pickups with a dog in the back ain't my style.

Don
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: P.C.F
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That place really doesnt exist..unless the VAST MAJORITY are from one group..
We retired in SW Fla. Its "kind of" a retirement location..but try not to confuse US with stereotyping either. We have a mix here BTW.. From homeless to multimillionairs.. from The Elite to the, down and out and we have our fair share of rednecks. BTW retired in 2015 is nothing like it was 40 years ago or even 20 years ago.. Todays Grandma's and Grandpa's, at least where we live, are very active and we're more likely to be seen Out on our Boats in the Harbor Fishing or Motorcycles riding just to ride.. Grandma has the Top down on her Mustang or what ever she is driving as often as its up..Shuffleboard and Bocce ball is The Next Age Bracket.. Are You Not Sure where and among who, you want to live with? Then for sure spend some time looking.. Maybe you'll like the Ageing Hippies / Avant Garde of New Mexico.. Our The Cheese Burgers in Paradise of South Florida.. or The I wanna Be a Cowboy of somewhere in Texas.. If one of you will die if you cannot be butting your nose into your kids lives everyday, then move to, or stay there hahahaha

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I'd prefer someplace that doesn't categorize people.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:32 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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That's how I see it too, maybe it's a Seattle thing.
Good point, especially as a former "Seattleite" myself. So everyone's notions of these kinda common cultural groups, and their stereotypes, are probably gonna vary a lot depending where you live. So for example one person's "yuppie" might simply be another's "liberal & affluent hippie".

Although even within our local stereotypes, it seems like most everyone still has some sorta "druthers".
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: P.C.F
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Dagnabit.. someone always ruins the fun with commonsense and honesty
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I would still like to see your definition of a yuppie.

I can't speak for other areas of the country, but there is one huge "category" of people you left out in your OP. And that is what I call "regulars"—working class people of all incomes who do not subscribe to any particular lifestyle. They may be churchgoers but are not evangelistic. They work 40-hour weeks and may have raised families. They don't buy $5 lattés, do yoga and tai chi, drive trucks with guns in the back and drink beer by the sixpack, don't grow gardens or hug trees, aren't drug addicts. They are just middle of the road and lead responsible lives, rich or less rich (but they may "obsess over money" and have really nice things), with good to average values. They may have the prejudices (often do) but don't wear them on their sleeves. These are the majority of people I know "in the middle," and who knows how large a "category they make up nationwide. (this P contains a lot of stereotyping based on responses here)

I resist the simple categories because I see such blended values and lifestyles these days. Not every yuppie drives a Subaru or Volvo; not every hippie drives a VW bus. It's ridiculous to think that way.

How are these defined groups of folks going to impact your life, really, unless they live next door to you or are in your face? If you are retired, are you going to be hanging out with these folks, or mostly with your family and/or people like you whom you seek out after you move?

As I mentioned, I live in a liberal lifestyle area with a heavy influence from academia/environmentalism. I often get sick of the lifestyler culture around here that hangs out in coffee shops with their laptops and ipads, etc. I could easily name it a "me" kind of culture, but I know better than to make assumptions. And I like my fresh roasted coffee from a shop, too.

A biker band I know of raises a lot of money for charities. They're good "guys and gals" and they hang with their kind. Would I join them? No. Would I shun them? Not necessarily, unless they were directly making my life miserable in some way.

I have little resonance with the "typical" yuppie (if there is such a thing), however I do subscribe to wellness and organically grown foods, we have a garden, and we feel strongly about not wrecking the earth we live on and the air we breathe. It's just common sense. Nonetheless, I am in the broad working class category and I think many, many people are.

Maybe you should ask specific questions in specific state forums (states you are thinking about) about whether certain kinds of lifestyles are overwhelming/in your face. It would be unfortunate to move to an ideal area in other respects and find out that the people are not your kind.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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I have no idea what kind of people I would prefer to live around. I love fast cars, Harley's, guns, Big trucks, low hot rod trucks, ok trucks in general. BMW's are cool. My next purchase will probably be a BMW but then my business is paying for that. I want to be around people that love the ocean and want to live near the beach. People that could live on a boat and either own or have owned an airplane. Although I don't have style I appreciate it. I am fine with Levis and a button up shirt that is not tucked in. Nike's are my new foot wear of choice. I used to prefer flip flops all the time when I was not working but I have PF and my feet started hurting a lot.

I guess anyone that likes cool stuff, wants to live within a bikeride away from the ocean, wants to spend time outside in the back yard grilling dead animals, enjoys having fun, plans on spending their retirement years surfing, sailing, skateboarding, jumping on the Harley for a ride down the coast. What ever kind of people those are I want to spend time hanging out with them.
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