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Effort costs nothing, and that is all an employer expects at a Mcjob. Oner SHOULD NOT have to pay for FULL effort. One pays a premium, naturallly, for education, training, or experience.
Of course effort costs. You need calories to work hard.
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Originally Posted by rhawkins74
And why would anyone raise their kids to disrespect someone just because they have money? Well, we know it is because they are being raised in a liberal household, who teaches them to disrespect people because of money, skin color, etc...
That's is a ridiculous assertion. Liberals respect people who really earn money: firefighters, pediatric heart surgeons, teachers, mailpeople and others who work hard. But we're smart enough to teach them not to respect someone just because they have money. A Wal Mart heir or coke dealer is a slimeball not a role model just because they have a lot of money.
You remind me of the guy who was said to salute the Rothschild's chamber pot as it passed him. My kids are, luckily, being raised with more discernment.
Then you have never done roofing if you believe that.
You're right. No one gave a damn if you had a high school diploma in roofing, good luck getting hired at Starbucks without at least that. Starbucks does require more education for an entry-level position. Neither require any particularly training or experience.
Of course effort costs. You need calories to work hard.
That's is a ridiculous assertion. Liberals respect people who really earn money: firefighters, pediatric heart surgeons, teachers, mailpeople and others who work hard. But we're smart enough to teach them not to respect someone just because they have money. A Wal Mart heir or coke dealer is a slimeball not a role model just because they have a lot of money.
You remind me of the guy who was said to salute the Rothschild's chamber pot as it passed him. My kids are, luckily, being raised with more discernment.
no it isnt, or maybe you have a hard time reading simple english, my posts were in response to the guy who was teaching his kids to not respect someone that has money.
So to you, someone that starts from poverty, works hard and forms a company and does something with him/herself didnt work hard, wow...
And again, maybe this time, which I doubt, you will understand, no one has claimed that anyone should respect someone else just because they have money.
This seems to be the difference, I teach my children to judge someone by their character and not materialistic things, I teach them that hard work pays off, not entitlement.
You remind me of most liberals that hate us because we don't believe what you tell us to believe.
You're right. No one gave a damn if you had a high school diploma in roofing, good luck getting hired at Starbucks without at least that. Starbucks does require more education for an entry-level position. Neither require any particularly training or experience.
Except with roofing, you have math that comes into play, regulations, permits, some engineering etc...
Bumping up requirements for manual labor and jobs anybody with a pulse can do doesn't seem like a very good move for me. Whoever's idea that deserves a few knuckles.
no it isnt, or maybe you have a hard time reading simple english, my posts were in response to the guy who was teaching his kids to not respect someone that has money.
So to you, someone that starts from poverty, works hard and forms a company and does something with him/herself didnt work hard, wow...
And again, maybe this time, which I doubt, you will understand, no one has claimed that anyone should respect someone else just because they have money.
This seems to be the difference, I teach my children to judge someone by their character and not materialistic things, I teach them that hard work pays off, not entitlement.
You remind me of most liberals that hate us because we don't believe what you tell us to believe.
If you form a company and earn money by underpaying others thus forcing them to rely on the general public to eat, gain shelter, get access to medical care . . . why should I respect you?
I teach my kids not to respect cheap and greedy people. Maybe you should, too?
Hard work can pay off. But it's stupid to work hard for a selfish jerk when you could use that time and energy to more profitable ends.
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Originally Posted by bobtn
We have a major obesity problem, not a lack of calories.
You need work ethic to work hard, and that is what many lack.
Nonsense. People who are unwilling to work hard for someone who pays them very little don't lack a work ethic. They simply have the common sense to refuse to be exploited. That's the problem with many of today's employers: they expect you to work hard for very little money. Taking advantage of a bad economy does not make you a good person.
agreed, people have to realize that companies, corporations, businesses, employers, bosses, hiring-managers, are selfish greedy people who don't care about the consumer or their employee's, only their money
no it isnt, or maybe you have a hard time reading simple english, my posts were in response to the guy who was teaching his kids to not respect someone that has money.
So to you, someone that starts from poverty, works hard and forms a company and does something with him/herself didnt work hard, wow...
And again, maybe this time, which I doubt, you will understand, no one has claimed that anyone should respect someone else just because they have money.
This seems to be the difference, I teach my children to judge someone by their character and not materialistic things, I teach them that hard work pays off, not entitlement.
You remind me of most liberals that hate us because we don't believe what you tell us to believe.
Great post. If only more Americans thought as you do and stopped pandering to corporate interests, which in turn allows people to be taken advantage of.
It's not even about politics - it's about morality.
I always work just as hard because hard work can result in either more pay or create really strong references when the time comes to apply for a higher paying job. That reference may make a difference in getting a future position elsewhere. After years of working for a retail company that pays similar to the amount you're listed, I have been offered a position to teach fourth graders. I've heard from coworkers about the reference my boys gave and it was damn good. Not a typical, "well she was always on time, she was responsible..." It was a reference that would make me stand out and make it hard for that principal to ignore! So the pay me be low, but hard work may lead to bigger opportunities!
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