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Old 08-12-2021, 10:34 AM
 
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Any God that would eternally torment people is an unjust God.
Based on what?
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:37 AM
 
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Any God that would eternally torment people is an unjust God.
Could it be that for those who hate God, His supreme goodness and unending love and life feel like torture?

Those who have been perfected in Christ feel the radiance and heat of the presence of God as Good and Blissful.

Maybe those who hate God feel that same radiance and heat as fires of torment.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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Your cartoonish caricaturizations aside,

Who can say what your sufferings could accomplish for your child? We'll never know in this life.

What we do know is that no act of love is ever wasted.
You need to keep that in mind the next time you read about the love of God.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:46 AM
 
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Mike, how can you make that statement? His supreme goodness and unending love? Really? You say His patience runs out eventually? Is it unending love to the VAST majority of mankind who according to you are going to hell and be tormented forever?

I hate it when God's nature is turned upside down by 'religious' 'experts" *HA!*. Christ is the Savior of ALL mankind, especially to those who believe. I read that somewhere. Why dispute this? Modern day pharisees are what many of you are.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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We don’t. That’s why we share the gospel with everyone who will listen.
that is well and good jimmie but it still leaves the Father and the Son to suffer loss for all eternity.

If the human heart is aghast at the thought of their children suffering for all eternity how much more do you think the heart of the Father and the Son will suffer at those they lost?
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:50 AM
 
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People ask the question all the time, How could a loving God send anyone to hell?

The reality is that God has done everything in His power to keep people out of hell.
and according to you failed big time.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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that is well and good jimmie but it still leaves the Father and the Son to suffer loss for all eternity.

If the human heart is aghast at the thought of their children suffering for all eternity how much more do you think the heart of the Father and the Son will suffer at those they lost?
This is where logic stops for them. They know this but it does not reconcile with what they have indoctrinated with. Quite a catch 22.

How much are they REALLY bothered by it though? Jimmie says he preaches to the lost but how many respond but thats not his job either. But, trillions of years is a loong time. No escape, just forever, in torment. Too painful to think about so they move on, in denial really.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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This topic tends to make me cringe to begin with, but more so when I see the ACCEPTANCE given to it by some of the posters here. This belief of mainstream Christianity is EVIL PERSONIFIED and anyone who supports it by their blind acceptance of it would hang their their heads in shame IF they felt any shame toward the fiend god that they kowtow to through fear! This is NOT the Creator God but rather a satanic replica of a god that 'the Church' has created to keep its followers in line!
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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So much pride in this thread from the hell-deniers.



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first off mike we do not deny there is a hell. Shoel/hades, tataroo and Gehenna are very real, what we deny is YOUR understanding of them, especially that of Gehenna.

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Who *the hell* do you think you are?
believers in a never failing God.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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You need to keep that in mind the next time you read about the love of God.
Please elaborate.
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