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I am not interested in stupidity, nor the ignorant garbage you have been taught, ... Mr. King James?
Go and learn the true meaning of words without mixing and blended them to mean what they don't.
I do believe that the kjv is inspired and inerrant as concerning doctrine...
That God had an intimate involvement in the translation of the holy scriptures into the English language, to produce what we call the kjv today.
Jesus said that the way to life is indeed narrow and that there are few who find it (Matthew 7:13-14).
I do believe that trusting the kjv is in fact an aspect of that narrow way.
Won't it be jolly to be singing with the angels in heaven, knowing that your child is meanwhile screaming in the eternal torments of hell?
Who can honestly say they'd be fine with it?
I am not asking for scriptural references alone, but for the human, emotional and psychological aspects of the situation.
Getting back to the original question, St. Thomas Aquinas addressed this very issue in the three Articles of Question 94 of the Supplement to Part III of the Summa Theologiae. If you are interested in his consideration of the question (warning: it uses technical philosophical terms), you will find it here: https://www.newadvent.org/summa/5094.htm
Getting back to the original question, St. Thomas Aquinas addressed this very issue in the three Articles of Question 94 of the Supplement to Part III of the Summa Theologiae. If you are interested in his consideration of the question (warning: it uses technical philosophical terms), you will find it here: https://www.newadvent.org/summa/5094.htm
Unfortunately, that is not a safe website for my browser.
In your ignorance, you have ignored this before, however for the reader I will repeat it again: Gehenna is the designation of the valley of Hinnom located outside of Jerusalem. It’s the place where trash, animal carcasses and dead bodies were burned. Now, tell me, is that fire still burning? Of course not, it was only unquenchable, as long as - there was something to burn. You need to do some in depth studying and research, instead of relying on your English translations. In addition, never, is not an indication of forever and ever, neither is it associated with unending torment. It merely means that it will not be extinguished, until its purpose is completed.
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No; because in Mark 9:42-48, Jesus does not identify that place as Gehenna; but as HELL.
You keep shifting the goalposts.
First hell is defined in your eyes as Hades and/or Sheol; and when that doesn't work, you change it to meaning Gehenna.
But hell isn't defined as Gehenna in Mark 9:42-48; it is defined as hell; so you are going to have to stick with your prior definition that it is Sheol or Hades.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
I am not interested in stupidity, nor the ignorant garbage you have been taught, ... Mr. King James?
Go and learn the true meaning of words without mixing and blended them to mean what they don't.
BTW - your post was the most ignorant that I have ever read.
You really have no idea what you are talking about?
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
I do believe that the kjv is inspired and inerrant as concerning doctrine...
That God had an intimate involvement in the translation of the holy scriptures into the English language, to produce what we call the kjv today.
Jesus said that the way to life is indeed narrow and that there are few who find it (Matthew 7:13-14).
I do believe that trusting the kjv is in fact an aspect of that narrow way.
In the Old English "hell," denoted that which is covered (i.e., the grave).
In the Old English "hell," denoted that which is covered (i.e., the grave).
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So, apply it, as Jesus did, to Mark 9:42-48.
Gehenna is the designation of the valley of Hinnom located outside of Jerusalem. It’s the place where trash, animal carcasses and dead bodies were burned. Now, tell me, is that fire still burning? Of course not, it was only unquenchable, as long as - there was something to burn. You need to do some in depth studying and research, instead of relying on your English translations. In addition, never, is not an indication of forever and ever, neither is it associated with unending torment. It merely means that it will not be extinguished, until its purpose is completed.
Gehenna is the designation of the valley of Hinnom located outside of Jerusalem. It’s the place where trash, animal carcasses and dead bodies were burned. Now, tell me, is that fire still burning? Of course not, it was only unquenchable, as long as - there was something to burn. You need to do some in depth studying and research, instead of relying on your English translations. In addition, never, is not an indication of forever and ever, neither is it associated with unending torment. It merely means that it will not be extinguished, until its purpose is completed.
However I fear for you that this concept that hell is not an everlasting punishment will deceive you into thinking that the consequences for sin are less than they really are; and so you will continue on as a sinner, and, thinking that there will be no eternal consequences, yet deceived, you will end up facing eternal consequences.
For hell (i.e. the furnace of fire) is meant to be a deterrent as concerning those who work iniquity; even as Jesus taught in Matthew 13:41-42. Also Matthew 7:23 and Matthew 25:41.
Unfortunately, that is not a safe website for my browser.
There are any number of sites on the internet where you can find a translation of the Summa Theologiae (also known as the Summa Theologica.) Just use your favorite search engine to find one your browser likes, and then go to the place in the "Supplement" to Part 3 that I indicated above.
Gehenna is the designation of the valley of Hinnom located outside of Jerusalem. It’s the place where trash, animal carcasses and dead bodies were burned. Now, tell me, is that fire still burning? Of course not, it was only unquenchable, as long as - there was something to burn. You need to do some in depth studying and research, instead of relying on your English translations. In addition, never, is not an indication of forever and ever, neither is it associated with unending torment. It merely means that it will not be extinguished, until its purpose is completed.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
However I fear for you that this concept that hell is not an everlasting punishment will deceive you into thinking that the consequences for sin are less than they really are; and so you will continue on as a sinner, and, thinking that there will be no eternal consequences, yet deceived, you will end up facing eternal consequences.
The ignorance you exhibit is not impressive, however, if you want to focus on being a sinner that's your choice.
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