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It is you that does not understand. It doesn't matter that these voter laws would have an effect on the presidential election. It is the individual states that made the laws. If you have a problem with it, bring it up with the politicians on the state level. Use it against them in as many posts as you like, but it has nothing to do with Trump.
Again, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The laws were passed to directly disenfranchise AA voters in those states during presidential elections. They were all passed by GOP-led state legislatures. Civil action WAS brought against these laws and they're being overturned specifically because they were racist. In NC, it was incredibly blatant. The NC legislature requested voting data based on racial demographics, and then reduced voting hours and locations solely based on where/when AAs were most likely to vote. Why? Because AAs vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. So not only was it racist, it is damn near attempted fraud.
Trump is a racist and a Republican, two things that go hand in hand these days. I'm not sure what you're having trouble grasping.
Again, it is a clear choice between someone who will talk very nice to you and make you feel all warm and fuzzy, but historically, not change your life in any substantive way.
Or, someone who doesn't do the "warm and fuzzy" thing, but is commited to policies that will actually make your life better.
If it's me, I'll take the real change vs the perceived change any day of the week.
Trump has offered zero policies that would affect racial minorities in any positive way. His nasty rhetoric actually suggests he would do them a lot of harm. In your example, the play nice with no change is actually preferable to Trump.
And again, like so many other Trump supporters/Republicans, the implication you are making is that minorities are too dumb to know who has their backs. That in and of itself is a problem and is obviously not likely to win them over. Then again, if you were all that interested in winning them over, you wouldn't support the most bigoted candidate in generations, but this doesn't seem to be registering.
Again, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The laws were passed to directly disenfranchise AA voters in those states during presidential elections. They were all passed by GOP-led state legislatures. Civil action WAS brought against these laws and they're being overturned specifically because they were racist. In NC, it was incredibly blatant. The NC legislature requested voting data based on racial demographics, and then reduced voting hours and locations solely based on where/when AAs were most likely to vote. Why? Because AA vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. So not only was it racist, it is damn near attempted fraud.
Trump is a racist and a Republican, two things that go hand in hand these days. I'm not sure what you're having trouble grasping.
Your post is proving MY point, not yours.
How long did you live in the US? Do you know the difference between state laws and federal laws?
"State laws", "State legislatures", "NC".
These are issues decided and voted on by politicians in individual states. Trump did not create or vote for these laws. He had nothing to do with it. The laws were likely made before Trump was even a candidate.
Blame the politicians in those states, and I won't be arguing with you. But if you are trying to somehow tie this case to Trump, you will fall short, even with Hillary supporters. Do you think they want republicans tying Hillary to every "misdeed" by every obscure state politician for the mere fact that he/she is a democrat?
Your hate for Trump is causing you to make disingenuous posts. Your hatred of Trump is blinding you to the facts. When people like you blame Trump for everything under the sun, it causes distrust and hurts your cause.
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Trump has offered zero policies that would affect racial minorities in any positive way. His nasty rhetoric actually suggests he would do them a lot of harm. In your example, the play nice with no change is actually preferable to Trump.
And again, like so many other Trump supporters/Republicans, the implication you are making is that minorities are too dumb to know who has their backs. That in and of itself is a problem and is obviously not likely to win them over. Then again, if you were all that interested in winning them over, you wouldn't support the most bigoted candidate in generations, but this doesn't seem to be registering.
What is this so called nasty rhetoric?
Protecting our borders against illegal immigration does not affect Americans negatively except for those who are looking to hire cheap labor. His build a wall proposal only affects people who want to come here illegally and are therefore not Americans to begin with. You should not infer that because the majority of illegal immigrants are hispanics that Trump is against hispanics. And yes, by reducing illegal immigrants, the hispanics that came here by going through proper procedures (i.e. followed the law) will have a better life because they will be given better job opportunities instead of competing with people who will work for almost nothing just to stay here.
Secondly, muslim immigrants are to be vetted more thoroughly under Trump's proposal. Again, this will only help Americans by trying to ensure that those that migrate here will embrace our culture and not try to force their religious beliefs on us - such as the way they treat woman and gay individuals.
So tell me again how Trump intends to do harm to minority Americans?
Trump has offered zero policies that would affect racial minorities in any positive way. His nasty rhetoric actually suggests he would do them a lot of harm. In your example, the play nice with no change is actually preferable to Trump.
And again, like so many other Trump supporters/Republicans, the implication you are making is that minorities are too dumb to know who has their backs. That in and of itself is a problem and is obviously not likely to win them over. Then again, if you were all that interested in winning them over, you wouldn't support the most bigoted candidate in generations, but this doesn't seem to be registering.
I never questioned the intelligence of minorities. In fact, I'm counting on it.
What are the chances of despite all these polls heavily favoring Hillary, we get what happened with Brexit, where all indications were they'd stay, and the leave vote won?
What are the chances of despite all these polls heavily favoring Hillary, we get what happened with Brexit, where all indications were they'd stay, and the leave vote won?
According to five thirty eight, currently 21.4%. (Highest out of his three models, the others are less than 12%.)
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What are the chances of despite all these polls heavily favoring Hillary, we get what happened with Brexit, where all indications were they'd stay, and the leave vote won?
Brexit was almost 50/50 before the polls, and after the vote. Hardly something you want to compare to.
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