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Old 01-07-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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America is giving these people lethal weapons ffs. This video is not graphic but it is jarring. It is also mislabled. These people were not victims of counter battery fire, they were victims of their own stupidity. The cone shaped things they're throwing around are 122mm high explosive rounds and the cylindars are the bagged propellent charges. The gun being used is a 2S3 Akatsia SPG.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=755_1515331764


DKM. Why do you even try?
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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America is giving these people lethal weapons ffs. This video is not graphic but it is jarring. It is also mislabled. These people were not victims of counter battery fire, they were victims of their own stupidity. The cone shaped things they're throwing around are 122mm high explosive rounds and the cylindars are the bagged propellent charges. The gun being used is a 2S3 Akatsia SPG.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=755_1515331764


DKM. Why do you even try?
In order to further could plunder what is left from Ukraine.
No words
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:07 PM
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Its Russia that is starting wars in Europe lately and egging on some more with provocative practice invasions in Belarus. My point was only that when/if they do start a war, they will lose Konigsberg after. As for liveleak, I don't click on those links. But it sounds like you are watching some incident from years past. Since they fought Russian front line units in Ukraine 3 years ago, the army has been retrained and re-equipped.
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:30 PM
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It's official. Irina Nosdrovya was murdered. They found multiple stab wounds.



https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-lawy.../28953512.html
Russian news dropped the story now that her murderer was caught. That doesn't fit into their narrative of Ukraine falling apart and being lawless.
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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Ukraine has doubled imports of Russian anthracite since the start of the blockade. Despite well-publicized imports of anthracite from the United States, Poland, and South Africa, 91 percent of Ukraine’s imports of this valuable coal were from Russia (valued at U.S. $70 million).

Cut Off: What Does the Economic Blockade of the Separatist Territories Mean for Ukraine?
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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Russian news dropped the story now that her murderer was caught. That doesn't fit into their narrative of Ukraine falling apart and being lawless.
Who cares about "their" narrative, when you see THIS in black and white -

"In Ukraine, relatives of officials often either get away with crimes or manage to get released earlier due to corruption, which observers say harms the country's everyday life and economy."

Irina's case was simply highly publicized, in American embassy including. That's why it was "resolved" somehow, after so many years.

RIP Irina, you were exceptionally brave woman.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:45 PM
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Who cares about "their" narrative, when you see THIS in black and white -

"In Ukraine, relatives of officials often either get away with crimes or manage to get released earlier due to corruption, which observers say harms the country's everyday life and economy."

Irina's case was simply highly publicized, in American embassy including. That's why it was "resolved" somehow, after so many years.

RIP Irina, you were exceptionally brave woman.
Irina was killed 10 to 14 days ago, not "years". Get your facts right. Trying to make it look like her killer would get away because Ukraine is corrupt is no longer valid since he is now in jail. Not that he might not get out, Ukraine's courts are still weak.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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Irina was killed 10 to 14 days ago, not "years". Get your facts right. Trying to make it look like her killer would get away because Ukraine is corrupt is no longer valid since he is now in jail. Not that he might not get out, Ukraine's courts are still weak.


Check the whole story.
Check HOW MANY YEARS it took her to apprehend the killer of her sister, who has been well-known to authorities.
She was murdered right after he was finally apprehended.
This was a message sent to her by mafia of a justice.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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Its Russia that is starting wars in Europe lately and egging on some more with provocative practice invasions in Belarus. My point was only that when/if they do start a war, they will lose Konigsberg after. As for liveleak, I don't click on those links. But it sounds like you are watching some incident from years past. Since they fought Russian front line units in Ukraine 3 years ago, the army has been retrained and re-equipped.
What wars has Russia started recently? In Georgia? Hmmm...... Didn't the Georgian army open up on Tsinvali in the middle of the night? Was that really necessary? A full scale invasion? Let's see. Russia started the war in Ukraine too? Seems to me Tyurchinov sent in the military to go after certain people to me. Wouldn't it have been better to talk thnigs over first?

Seems to me Russia hasn't been starting wars but they sure as hell have been finishing them lately.
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:52 PM
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Seems to me Russia hasn't been starting wars but they sure as hell have been finishing them lately.
Like in Syria where Putin declared victory 3 times, withdrawal twice and just got attacked there so blamed Ukraine and the USA? Let me guess, its Russophobia behind attacks against Russia's military in countries its troops are occupying.
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