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Old 03-13-2014, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Well, I suppose the point is that Crimea must become much more autonomous than it currently is under the centralist pseudo-government in Kiev.

Now, if people choose the second option, will there be sanctions on the Ukraine?
No, but there will be sanctions on Crimea. Read again what I wrote.

There is no way Crimea will get more autonomy. They will either be ruled by the pseudo-government in Moscow or they will establish some sort of semi-dictatorship under Aksyonov. Kadyrov-style.

But you'll hardly care as long as your behated pro-Western politicians aren't involved. I have to admit, though, that your self-hatred is kind of cute
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Old 03-13-2014, 03:45 PM
 
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News from "anti-fascist" Russia:

Russians authorities and web providers are busy blocking liberal websites run by well known nazis and fascists like Garry Kasparov (former chess champ). Russia blocks internet sites of Putin critics | Reuters

The question about a gesture Russians will use to greet their Fuhrer remains open.
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Old 03-13-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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No, but there will be sanctions on Crimea. Read again what I wrote.

There is no way Crimea will get more autonomy. They will either be ruled by the pseudo-government in Moscow or they will establish some sort of semi-dictatorship under Aksyonov. Kadyrov-style.

But you'll hardly care as long as your behated pro-Western politicians aren't involved. I have to admit, though, that your self-hatred is kind of cute
Well, if they don't want the crooks in Kiev, they don't want them...

No idea what you are talking about. Just because I am from the West, does not mean I am brainwashed enough to support its actions. Usually I indeed don't support the West. The world urgently needs countries like Russia and China to keep the crooks in Washington at bay...
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:04 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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News from "anti-fascist" Russia:

Russians authorities and web providers are busy blocking liberal websites run by well known nazis and fascists like Garry Kasparov (former chess champ). Russia blocks internet sites of Putin critics | Reuters

The question about a gesture Russians will use to greet their Fuhrer remains open.
Not unlike the British government forcing the Guardian to destroy its own servers in order to prevent the publication of critical information a few months ago. Censorship exists in the West as well.

And frankly, if I were Putin I would block American sites such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. altogether in order to protect people from their own stupidity
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:06 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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News from "anti-fascist" Russia:

Russians authorities and web providers are busy blocking liberal websites run by well known nazis and fascists like Garry Kasparov (former chess champ). Russia blocks internet sites of Putin critics | Reuters

The question about a gesture Russians will use to greet their Fuhrer remains open.
Not unlike the British government forcing the Guardian to destroy its own servers in order to prevent the publication of critical information a few months ago. Censorship exists in the West as well.

And frankly, if I were Putin I would block American sites such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. altogether in order to protect people from their own stupidity

Nobody says Putin is a saint, far from it. But the world needs people like him since most other presidents and prime ministers are stuck in Obama's rectum...
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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And frankly, if I were Putin I would block American sites such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. altogether in order to protect people from their own stupidity
And don't even get me started on CityData...

Though obviously that's not banned by Putin yet considering how many brand new(and old) Russian posters we've had on here lately.
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:35 PM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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Oh, poor Russian... you think that all earth in the world belongs to you: )
1441 — formation of the independent Crimean Khanate.
1774 — the Crimea is declared by the independent state headed by own khan
1783 — the Empress Catherine II signed the Manifesto on accession to the Russian Empire of the Crimea and Taman Peninsula
1853 — 1856 — the Crimean war (East war).
1917 — 1920 — Civil war. The "white" and "red" governments, including the Soviet Socialist Republic of Taurida, the Crimean Soviet Socialist Republic several times replace with territories of the Crimea each other, etc.
1921 — the Autonomous Crimean Soviet Socialist Republic as a part of RSFSR is formed.
1941 — 1944 — occupation of the Crimea by Germany and Romania.
1944 — deportation of the Crimean Tatars, Armenians, Bulgarians and Greeks
1954 — the Crimea is transferred from structure of RSFSR to USSR structure
1987 — the beginning of mass return of the krymskotatarsky people to the Crimea from deportation places.



The Russian Empire won the Crimea which belonged to Turkey before war between Russia and Turkey.
After transfer of the Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 Turkey filed documents to the International Court of Justice, but it refused.

So Turkey is the Crimean khanate: )
And Russians got there only after the Russian-Turkish war: )

On stories not Kiselyov writes textbooks to you incidentally? )
You have decided to use Wikipedia? Like I said earlier this area Land Greeks, after Byzantium, after the Kievan Rus. Russia continued after Byzantium was set any gains in the end we got the land of Russia. 15th century is not the 10th century. That is 500 years until it was Khanate Russian land.
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:51 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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And don't even get me started on CityData...

Though obviously that's not banned by Putin yet considering how many brand new(and old) Russian posters we've had on here lately.
CD is surprisingly unknown despite its size, no idea why that is
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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So your mind can't comprehend a possibility of people (>50% Russian speaking people) coming together to protest? Your Russian propaganda sources forgot to mention that pro EU meeting (hundreds of thousands of people, btw) was dispersing on its own, the next morning the square would've been empty, Yanukovich would have had all the power and all his loot if somebody up the command chain wouldn't have given orders to beat the remaining protesters up, to give an obedience lesson a mini Russian/Chinese style, so people would think twice before coming together to protest again. The next day the square was full of hundreds of thousands of people outraged about brutal beatings, damn evil West and nazi were so fast distributing their dollars among protesters. And that's this second protest that Yanukovich (and his Russian friends) couldn't control. As we all know, everything that balding Russian schizoid in chief can't control is funded by the US.

Thus, great leader Putin kicked off invasion scenario, of course an invasion on that scale didn't take any advance planning at all. Warm and fuzzy Russians couldn't possibly scheme and plan to destroy their neighbor given an opportunity. And it's not over yet, Russians are trying desperately to jump start a civil war (or at least bloodshed) in the Eastern Ukraine. All those pro-Russian supporters (many with Russian passports) beat and from now on kill their neighbors with different opinions out of their own will (no Russian funding or encouragement, that never happens). Russia is a bonafide fascist state run by a lunatic, face it now, because things will get much uglier in the future and you'll face that truth anyway.
Funny, did not you bring any reliable evidence. I also provided a letter and video of the West Channel, as the U.S. was planning to seize power in Ukraine. So no need to loud false statements
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:10 PM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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If you think Crimea is yours, why not give Karelia back to us, as it's legally ours? Allow a referendum and let's see what happens.
Say thank us that you exist today. You could become history. Remind you of who you are and in what year was rescued from the Swedes?
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