The future of Ukraine (crime, 2014, country, people)
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Very insightful report from Mr. Klaus. It is ev-ident that he believes the Russian/Ukrainian crisis is dangerous and has great implications for the stability of Europe and for Czechoslovakia.
But from his analysis, it appears he sees no solution at this point to the crisis. All he sees now from his perch is Ukraine's sldie into 'disintegration'. A not very optimistic scenario. I'm sure it comes from his skepticism on both Eastern and Western attitudes to the conflict.
But there I think he 'sides' more with looking at events through those close, historical ties between the two countries. Fair enough. Only thing with that is it appears to me a complete failure in the sense that Ukraine never got its foot off the ground politkically or economically with that 'brotherly' relationship. How does he think that can be solved now after all the previous years? That relationship apparently has fallen into a quagmire in the modern world of national aspirations. That Russian relationship now has cracks. Some want a different way.
I differ greatly with Mr. Klaus' concern that Mr. Putin is vilified as 'bogey man' in all this. But of course he is. Sadly, Mr. Putin's continual drumming mantra to the Russian populace of 'strength', 'honor', 'struggle' and 'resistance' in this crisis only adds more propaganda to the fire between those who live in the two countries. Mr. Putin right now sees the raging conflict. But he is no 'fireman'. I think we can see that. From the looks of it he'd rather have the ethnic hatred rage. I'm afraid 'peace' is not his vocabulary.
I know Mr. Klaus and his country as well as others are now caught in this firetrap. I don't know how he's going to navigate the crisis but when one reads his writing he's scared of the risks. But I do hope he has other 'can-do' items in his bag to meet this challenge. If he has he isn't sharing. Maybe he doesn't want to really wind up the bogey-man?
Ukrainians recruit battalions and they go to the East of the country to serve and protect. The politicians of Ukraine are sure that they have to debate only with civilized and peaceful speakers.
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Ukrainians recruit battalions and they go to the East of the country to serve and protect. The politicians of Ukraine are sure that they have to debate only with civilized and peaceful speakers.
Except for of course they have a lack of food and living conditions, force people even over the age of 50 to join "not longer for 30 days" but are there for much longer now (a relative of mine), coercion against those who want know par tin it including the threatening of their jobs and livelihood (because despite the media, many do not want no part in this), etc.
Oh yes, and the fact of sending the military against civilians, great idea there.
The pro Russian rebels fired the first shots in this conflict. Ukraine belongs to the Ukrainians not the Russians, and as such they have the right to protect their country from Russian backed killers.
The pro Russian rebels fired the first shots in this conflict.
No they did not. It were Western-Ukrainian ultra-nationalists who took the arms - the East Ukrainians had to respond. During the Orange revolution back in 2004 the ultra-nationalists didn't play any militant role in the government take-over, so the East was not "firing shots" as well.
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Ukraine belongs to the Ukrainians not the Russians,
You mean "used to belong" up until now, like, say Crimea used to belong to Russia, then to Ukraine and back. Nothing new in history in those lands you know, since "who is who" there is quite questionable.
"Don Cossacks (Russian: Донские казаки) were Cossacks who settled along the middle and lower Don. Historically, they were located within what was the Don Cossack Host (Russian: Всевеликое Войско Донское, Vsevelikoye Voysko Donskoye), which was either an independent or an autonomous democratic republic in the present day Southern Russia and the Donbas region of Ukraine, from the end of the 16th until the early 20th century.
Don Cossacks have had a rich military tradition, playing an important part in the historical development of the Russian Empire and participating in all of its major wars."
So basically the ukrainian troops and their various helpers (republican guards, Pravyi sector thugs, Blackwater mercenaries, etc) are shooting the East ukrainian population like rabbits, and all the pro Kiev crowd is able to say is " the important is to know IF there are Russians (from over the border) among the Donetsk militia". That's the big question for them, the death of countless innocent is not worth a headline, same thing as in Odessa.
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One day of an Ukrainian soldier on the hill Karachun near Slavjansk
like, say Crimea used to belong to Russia, then to Ukraine and back. Nothing new in history in those lands you know, since "who is who" there is quite questionable. 
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