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Old 03-28-2014, 10:41 PM
 
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This is exactly the answer I expected!

You're so predictable (and unfair!)

Unfair, because your assumption that I'm from Ukraine was probably based on the fact that my understanding of relations between Eastern and Western Ukraine is good enough, no?
Nooo)))), it's the other way around - if you were from Ukraine, then your understanding of relations between Eastern and Western parts of Ukraine should come more or less automatically. ( So I'm fair.)
But you are right, you might not be from Ukraine at all ( I was thinking more in terms of another poster who used to participate on Ukrainian thread earlier and who was very much involved in a subject, like you are ) or someone like RemeberMee who most likely has family ties in Ukraine ( just my guess.)
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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I see Mr. Putin wants to talk with Mr. Obama. Interesting and he doesn't evenm mention the Crimea. I learned a little bit of things in Transnistria...a pro-Russian which broke away from Moldava. maybe another powder keg and 'pretext' for coming in proetcting them? Allegedly 1000 Russian roops have already been there to keep the peace. So another area to add to the 'Ukraine' probelm in this diplomatic discussion.

And oh maybe some congratulations to Ilya Ponamarev, the deputy of Novosibirsk. he's the '1' of the 445-1 where the majority voted to anenxt the Crimea. Why did he vote that way? To note to Mr. Putin that 'some' other Russians might differ with popular opinion. he's a two term deputy in Novosibirsk. But now he's termed as 'fifth columnist' and a 'national traitor'. I tell you he's 38..Russia undoubted eats her young leaders.....;-)
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:03 AM
 
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"Russian President Vladimir Putin phoned his U.S. counterpart, Barack Obama, on Friday to discuss the tenuous situation in Ukraine..."

Putin calls Obama about 'diplomatic solution' to Ukraine crisis - CNN.com
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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Nooo)))), it's the other way around - if you were from Ukraine, then your understanding of relations between Eastern and Western parts of Ukraine should come more or less automatically. ( So I'm fair.)
But you are right, you might not be from Ukraine at all ( I was thinking more in terms of another poster who used to participate on Ukrainian thread earlier and who was very much involved in a subject, like you are ) or someone like RemeberMee who most likely has family ties in Ukraine ( just my guess.)
I'll not argue with you. After all, you're supposed to be older...
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Old 03-29-2014, 09:38 AM
 
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"Moscow has no intention of sending troops into Ukraine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said...His comments came after the US and Russian presidents discussed a possible diplomatic solution to the crisis. "

"But the Kremlin's account of the phone call suggests there is some hard bargaining ahead. "

BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Russia vows no invasion
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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"Moscow has no intention of sending troops into Ukraine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said...His comments came after the US and Russian presidents discussed a possible diplomatic solution to the crisis. "

"But the Kremlin's account of the phone call suggests there is some hard bargaining ahead. "

BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Russia vows no invasion
Not troops, just armed green Martians.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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Not troops, just armed green Martians.
Exactly!
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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There is a good article on the West's hypocrisy on the Guardian today:
How Vladimir Putin became evil | Tariq Ali | Comment is free | The Guardian

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"When Gorbachev agreed the deal on German reunification, the cornerstone of which was that united Germany could remain in Nato, US secretary of state Baker assured him that "there would be no extension of Nato's jurisdiction one inch to the east". Gorbachev repeated: "Any extension of the zone of Nato is unacceptable." Baker's response: "I agree." One reason Gorbachev has publicly supported Putin on the Crimea is that his trust in the west was so cruelly betrayed."
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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But the Kremlin's account of the phone call suggests there is some hard bargaining ahead. "
Here's just my little note to Mr. Putin...'Don't go into the east and don't play in the Moldava sandbox. Leave the 'Martians' on Mars'. Folks if he goes into the east it's a whole new ballgame. A very very bad one. I'd think he would be a lunatic. With 50,000 'martians' in the east and 25,000 in Crimea that's enough 'fuel' to blast off, eh?
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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"Moscow has no intention of sending troops into Ukraine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said...His comments came after the US and Russian presidents discussed a possible diplomatic solution to the crisis. "

"But the Kremlin's account of the phone call suggests there is some hard bargaining ahead. "

BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Russia vows no invasion
They have been saying that for weeks now, and indeed haven't invaded. Again the war-mongering Ukrainian and Western crooks claiming the opposite were - deliberately - wrong. Just like they were deliberately wrong on Iran building a nuclear weapon and many other accusations...
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