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Old 04-19-2019, 07:26 PM
 
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Yes I have. Is it incredible?

No it's not.

Both Siberians and Ukrainians/Southern Russians come across as something similar to me.

May be because historically so many moved to Siberia on their own will during Stolypin's reforms or were resettled there forcibly by Stalin.
But yes, I always detected some similarity.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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No it's not.

Both Siberians and Ukrainians/Southern Russians come across as something similar to me.

May be because historically so many moved to Siberia on their own will during Stolypin's reforms or were resettled there forcibly by Stalin.
But yes, I always detected some similarity.
Yes, many Ukrainians migrated out of Ukraine and into the Siberian area in the early 1900's/pre Revolution, my family (part of at least), was part of this migration, leaving out of Kharkov. A lot of them retained a lot of the Ukrainian culture including language.
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Russia
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I lost my pathos and pretense after MLRS bombing from russian territory on summer 2014. It's serious things.
Sorry.
Сan you provide the facts?

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It's terribly but it internal affairs. These victims could have been avoided but Russia rudely and cynically interfered in the internal affairs of Ukraine with breaking main international law and rules.
What about Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia as members of North Atlantic Organisation with common Russian border?
Maybe russian airborne will make drop zone near Tallinn? No way. They will be destroyed ASAP.
We need collective protection from angry unpredictable russian bear too. You got me?
This is my unconditional and unshakable point.
You say utter nonsense.

Do you really think what NATO will protect to Estonia or Latvia in the event of a conflict with Russia? You are naive! NATO is not going to die for these endangered extinction countries.
And explain the reason why Russia should conquer them?

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Old 04-20-2019, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Сan you provide the facts?
Putin's Undeclared War

Summer 2014

Russian Artillery Strikes
against Ukraine

Sean Case and Klement Anders


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Y...NqbE95MzA/view
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Old 04-20-2019, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Сan you provide the facts?



You say utter nonsense.

Do you really think what NATO will protect to Estonia or Latvia in the event of a conflict with Russia? You are naive! NATO is not going to die for these endangered extinction countries.
And explain the reason why Russia should conquer them?
To protect russian speaking people (40 % of population) for example and establish "Estonian peoples republic" EPR.
Or to move border furter to west from St Petersburg. I dont know what's on crazy Putin's mind.
Can you explain the reason why Russia should conquer Ukraine?
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Old 04-20-2019, 05:30 AM
 
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Сan you provide the facts?



You say utter nonsense.

Do you really think what NATO will protect to Estonia or Latvia in the event of a conflict with Russia?
They will. Otherwise Rabid Dog (Putin) come next time to bite Poland, Slovakia e. t.c. and expand to west like a Hitler in 1939-1941.
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Old 04-20-2019, 06:32 AM
 
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Vox Populi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=WytBcolYiO0
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Old 04-20-2019, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Originally Posted by Alec Solano View Post
Putin's Undeclared War

Summer 2014

Russian Artillery Strikes
against Ukraine

Sean Case and Klement Anders


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Y...NqbE95MzA/view
Well, Bellingcat is absolutely no authority for me. They have been caught on fake so many times that for me all their investigations are at the level "highly likely". They must work off money and so they makes the necessary investigations with the desired result.

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To protect russian speaking people (40 % of population) for example and establish "Estonian peoples republic" EPR.
Or to move border furter to west from St Petersburg. I dont know what's on crazy Putin's mind.
Can you explain the reason why Russia should conquer Ukraine?
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They will. Otherwise Rabid Dog (Putin) come next time to bite Poland, Slovakia e. t.c. and expand to west like a Hitler in 1939-1941.
You know, as one famous character from the Soviet film said: "when you say, the feeling that you are delusional"

Although... it's GREAT thought about the "Estonian people's republic"... necessary need to tell Putin about it...and I already came up with the name - Operation "Just Сause II"...
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Alec Solano View Post
Putin's Undeclared War

Summer 2014

Russian Artillery Strikes
against Ukraine

Sean Case and Klement Anders


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Y...NqbE95MzA/view

To me personally, after the 90ies, Americans lost the credibility.


To you personally I'd advise to listen closely to Muraviev here; if you don't like him as politician, he makes things clear as ECONOMIST.

Once Americans used Ukraine according to Brzesinsky doctrine, he explains with facts and figures in hand, why exactly Ukraine lost so much and why Ukrainians became so impoverished. ( Yes, he clarifies what the "EU association" is all about, and why it's so devastating for Ukraine's economy.)
I understand that it's NOT what Ukrainians want to hear under the circumstances. They'd rather keep on dreaming and listening to sweet promises of Poroshenko ( earlier) and now they prefer to listen to Ze of course.

But these are hard cold facts presented in a most clear and professional manner.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiEr...w&index=2&t=0s


P.S. I watched the *debates* between Poroshenko and Ze yesterday, and found the comments of El Murid here quite correct and refreshingly funny;


"Критиковать украинские дебаты бессмысленно: это их дело. Им и решать, что лучше, что хуже. Когда у нас будут дебаты - тогда нам их и обсуждать. Пока же можно констатировать, что ни традиций, ни культуры подобных мероприятий у нас нет. Есть жанр ток-шоу, где ведра с дерьмом, матерящиеся ведущие, мордобой и ор с брызгами - но в чем смысл его клонировать?
Единственное, что, конечно, вымораживает в новомодных украинских традициях - так это когда в любой непонятной ситуации все тут же бухаются на колени. Дело, конечно, хозяйское, но это какой-то крыжопольский драмкружок на гастролях. Впрочем, если пипл хавает, то значит, оно работает."


"The critique of Ukrainian debates makes no sense; it's their internal affair. They are the ones to decide what works for them and what's not. When we will have the debates - then we will be discussing them.

For now we have to state the fact that we don't have either culture or tradition of such thing."


( I won't translate the rest for obvious reasons. )
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Alec Solano View Post
Putin's Undeclared War

Summer 2014

Russian Artillery Strikes
against Ukraine

Sean Case and Klement Anders


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Y...NqbE95MzA/view
Posting trash Alec? That's what the link says.
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