Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Europe
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-15-2019, 03:40 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
6,767 posts, read 3,858,538 times
Reputation: 6690

Advertisements

You might be disappointed to hear about Zelenskiy's platform then Mr. Holnyuk.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-15-2019, 05:22 PM
 
9,511 posts, read 5,443,411 times
Reputation: 9092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec Solano View Post
I stopped listening in the first 2 minutes. Ukraine is not at war with Russia. Ukraine is at war with itself. If they were fighting Russia it would have been over 5 years ago.

Vice news sucks.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2019, 05:47 PM
 
9,511 posts, read 5,443,411 times
Reputation: 9092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec Solano View Post
1) "kicked ass Ukrainian soldiers in Donetsk airpor" - controversial statement
2) they were speaking heads for russian propaganda TV, not real commanders and decision makers

Givi, Motorola and Zakarchenko gave people hope and freedom. They were leaders, they were fighting the good fight like so many other people in history have. It pains you? Show me a Ukrainian from Azov battalion that can do what these men did. Maybe you can make a statue for Arsen Avakov and put it in some chitty town square somewhere but an opressor will never be looked on like those who opposed oppression. By anyone.

You obviously know little of the fighting too. The Ukrainian army was cut to pieces, beaten at every turn by men who were outnumbered and outgunned but had something to fight for and to die for if need be. The Ukrainian army was poorly led, poorly trained and equipped, conscripts were thrown into the front lines without uniforms and first aid kits let alone weapons ffs. Kids (the ones who couldn't pay a doctor or bereaucrat to get out of it) who were still in school put in a trench with next to no training. Most didn't know how to even use an AK-47.

The animals in Kiev put KIDS, drunks and druggies up against Afghanistan veterans who had little but knew how to use what they had. It was a slaughter. It got worse as Khazakhstans oligarchs emptied whole warehouses of old Soviet era weapons and ammunition. It got worse as the PEOPLE of Russia saw that their own army was not going to put a stop to it and often picked up their own gear and went there or made donations to the cause.

There are people cowering in Kiev and throughout the west that have no right to still be wasting air. They should all be hung.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2019, 05:58 PM
 
9,511 posts, read 5,443,411 times
Reputation: 9092
So Savchenko was quietly released in the last few days?

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-soc...courtroom.html

If she was a terrorist planning mass murder why is this? Maybe she was innocent all along?

Maybe the Nazis in charge who thought they had won and would never be held accountable for their crimes are having second thoughts? Maybe the Eric Koch and Einsatzgruppen wannabees hear a rumble coming from the east?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2019, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Russia
1,348 posts, read 625,507 times
Reputation: 688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrat335 View Post
So Savchenko was quietly released in the last few days?

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-soc...courtroom.html

If she was a terrorist planning mass murder why is this? Maybe she was innocent all along?

Maybe the Nazis in charge who thought they had won and would never be held accountable for their crimes are having second thoughts? Maybe the Eric Koch and Einsatzgruppen wannabees hear a rumble coming from the east?
This is called "circus left and clowns remained"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-19-2019, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Europe
4,692 posts, read 1,165,924 times
Reputation: 924
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrat335 View Post
I stopped listening in the first 2 minutes. Ukraine is not at war with Russia. Ukraine is at war with itself. If they were fighting Russia it would have been over 5 years ago.

Vice news sucks.
It doesn't matter what you think. All whole world knows truth.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-19-2019, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Europe
4,692 posts, read 1,165,924 times
Reputation: 924
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrat335 View Post
Maybe she was innocent all along?
I reckon she is still innocent in virgins sense like The Maid of Orléans (Joan of Arc).
Or not? Do you have any opinion?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-19-2019, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Russia
1,348 posts, read 625,507 times
Reputation: 688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec Solano View Post
It doesn't matter what you think. All whole world knows truth.
How much pathos and pretense in your words.

Ukraine is not the whole world.
If this were true, then in Kiev russian army would already 5 years ago.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-19-2019, 12:18 PM
 
26,787 posts, read 22,549,184 times
Reputation: 10038
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec Solano View Post
It doesn't matter what you think. All whole world knows truth.

Russia is not at war with Ukraine.
It's at war with the US. ( Ukraine being used by the US in its own interests.)
And THIS is the truth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCgs__N-Ymg


( Muraev is one scary dude if you ask me.
Russians are taking note too, hence the question in the comments: "Are you sure it's the UKRAINIAN politician?
He sounds too intelligent. ( "Шибко умный.")


But then, again, he is from Kharkov.

I already underlined the difference between Kharkov ( Dnepropetrovsk/Zaporozhie) and Donetsk regions.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-19-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Europe
4,692 posts, read 1,165,924 times
Reputation: 924
Quote:
Originally Posted by erasure View Post
Russia is not at war with Ukraine.
It's at war with the US. ( Ukraine being used by the US in its own interests.)
And THIS is the truth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCgs__N-Ymg


( Muraev is one scary dude if you ask me.
Russians are taking note too, hence the question in the comments: "Are you sure it's the UKRAINIAN politician?
He sounds too intelligent. ( "Шибко умный.")


But then, again, he is from Kharkov.

I already underlined the difference between Kharkov ( Dnepropetrovsk/Zaporozhie) and Donetsk regions.
Mr. Muraev is Putin's agent actually. I know his father as unpleasant pro-russian person.
Ukraine can't be out of NATO because haven't high level military budget and tactical nuclear missile weapon short and middle operation range.
But as I can see you are closer to ukrainian reality in US
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Europe
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top