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Old 07-17-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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Is not present, my dear, it is work of Russian bandits, itself Girkin on the page on VK says, that his people have brought down ukrainian Аn-26. But any Аn-26 in the sky not fly.

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I am not sure since when I am your "dear," but keep on reading his page then.
Not that I am a great military expert, but from what Girkin is saying - they simply don't have any equipment to shoot planes at 10,000 km.
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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Erasure, please, translate this for all


http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BswfxmFCAAAO-qd.jpg:large
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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Default Ukraine has NO future

It's very simple.
The Ukrainian military force down the plane and accuse Novorossiya's army.
As the Ukrainian army is so weak that can't cope with Novorossiya's army, ask for help of NATO.

Poles already landed in Odessa, together with 152-mm self-propelled howitzers.

So we are on the threshold of an Armageddon.

For Obama Malaysian "Boeing" - the same that crash of "twin towers" for Bush Jr. Casus belli against Russia, only and all
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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It's very simple.
The Ukrainian military force down the plane and accuse Novorossiya's army.
As the Ukrainian army is so weak that can't cope with Novorossiya's army, ask for help of NATO.

Poles already landed in Odessa, together with 152-mm self-propelled howitzers.

So we are on the threshold of an Armageddon.
No one knows who brought the plane down, it is not even confirmed on how it got brought down.

No matter the side, it is possible it was an accident, things like this can happen in war zones (which leads me to ask why the plane was flying there).

From the rebel view point; this is an area that has a high possibility of high altitude bombers being used to avoid the risk with low flying, as a few low flying aircraft have been shot down.

From the Kiev view point; the aircraft could have been a perceived Russian intel, attack, or bomber plane supporting the rebels.

Either way, if accidental, it was poor training by the AA operators.
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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Erasure, please, translate this for all


http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BswfxmFCAAAO-qd.jpg:large

Sorry I don't read anything that has name "Kurginyan" in the same sentence. At least I don't look at it seriously.
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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No one knows who brought the plane down, it is not even confirmed on how it got brought down.

No matter the side, it is possible it was an accident, things like this can happen in war zones (which leads me to ask why the plane was flying there).

That is a very good question.
Someone apparently is in denial that there is a war going on there.
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Donetsk
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I have the same question- how come that flight was in closed-fly zone? Is it possible that Kiev aviadispatcher didn't know about it?
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:22 AM
 
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I have the same question- how come that flight was in closed-fly zone? Is it possible that Kiev aviadispatcher didn't know about it?
Ukraine shot down a passenger plane in 2001, so obviously it is possible even with the best of intentions.
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Pro-Russian Separtists are preventing Ukranian authorities from gaining access to the crash site. No doubt to cleanse the evidence of their own fingerprints all over this wreckage.
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:32 AM
 
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Pro-Russian Separtists are preventing Ukranian authorities from gaining access to the crash site. No doubt to cleanse the evidence of their own fingerprints all over this wreckage.
Uh, no, Ukrainian officials are already at the site along with the media, this is well published throughout the media right now, a simple look at even popular outlets like BBC and CNN will show you this. The plane crashed in a Kiev held area.
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