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Take your strawman arguments and shove them up your ass. If you had read my posts, you'd see most of my posts are merely shorts comments on the debate and a few of them even supports the Russian point of view, for example:
Is the above what you call US-propaganda?
I have posted plenty of times that I disagreed with Russia annexing Crimea and Russia's involvement in Ukraine, yet that does not stop you from labeling me contributing to Russian-propaganda.
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Also, I like that your world view is so simple and so polarized that there are only two sources of information: an American and a Russian. You and your boyfriend Scrat are just butthurt because Nola, RememberMee and others have made you look like a bunch of drooling mouth-breathers.
No, not two sources of info, and I do not read nor watch Russian news. I have no idea why you presume so. Also, the other posters have not made anyone look like anything; more name calling from you?
I have posted plenty of times that I disagreed with Russia annexing Crimea and Russia's involvement in Ukraine, yet that does not stop you from labeling me contributing to Russian-propaganda.
No, not two sources of info, and I do not read nor watch Russian news. I have no idea why you presume so. Also, the other posters have not made anyone look like anything; more name calling from you?
Ok, sorry for the name calling, but it pisses me off when you and Scrat make assumption about me, when you know nothing about me, what I know about Russia or how I perceive the conflict.
And NO, I have not labeled you as contributing to Russian-propaganda, that is your arrogant interpretation of my posts.
Or, you and your girlfriend boxus can continue being butthurt, when someone calls you out on your obvious bias.
See above, Boxus hit the bullseye.
I don't hide my bias because I feel I'm right. Yanukovich (cockroach that he is) was the LEGITIMATELY elected president of Ukraine. The US sponsored a coup to put Porkochunko and his band of village idiots in power. This is illegal under national law.
Porkochunko was ordered to declared war on his own people. He did it and in doing so killed thousands of innocents, including many children. He set up a system that oppresses freedom of speech and terrorizes the people of Ukraine. He is a pimp whoring his country to western interests without even considering the welfare of the people.
Yanukovich was bad. This fat puke is infinitely worse. At least Yanukovich recognized that Ukraine could be a bridge, that if the cards were played right everyone would benefit.
My countries foreign policy for the last 60 years has been an utter failure, endless wars from pole to pole really no better in spirit than that of Nazi Germany, remember the master race that was going to save the world? It was very akin to what we have done since.
Yeah in this arena I'm biased, my moral compass will allow nothing else and I'm proud of it. You have nothing good on your side of the line. Picc off.
Some good news. The DNR is confiscating the business assets of Yanukovichs son on their territory.
My contributions to this thread can pretty much be boiled down to what we are debating right now: That Russian state owned media companies are not a neutral and objective source of information in regards to the war in Ukraine. Well duh.
Feel free to check out my post history. Or, you and your girlfriend boxus can continue being butthurt, when someone calls you out on your obvious bias.
Problem that we are facing is that CNN and Fox are not neutral and objective sources either.
I am forced to compare CNN to BBC to RT. CNN is the worst in terms of propaganda. Fox has a clear party objective.
So basically I read BBC.com and RT.com the truth is somewhere in the middle.
If you get all your news from CNN or FOX, we do not base our oppinions on the same facts, I think you take sensational accusations and use them as facts.
Since I was born in Kiev, I can also say that given my knowledge of the cultures involved, the way Russia is telling it, it makes allot more sense then the way US is telling it. Like a jigsaw puzzle the way RT.com is telling it makes the peaces fit and the way CNN is telling it does not make the peaces fit.
Which brings me back to you, your some jerk who enjoys making personal attacks on people while you actually don't say much relevant stuff.
Am I the jerk? You're the one assuming I get my information from FOX News, and what are you basing this on? What an awkward accusation especially taking into consideration that you get your news (apparently) from RT, which is owned by the Russian State. At least CNN and Fox aren't owned by the American Government despite their obvious bias.
What a joke.
EDIT: Oh yeah, that link to The Guardian is ancient news.
Am I the jerk? You're the one assuming I get my information from FOX News, and what are you basing this on? What an awkward accusation especially taking into consideration that you get your news (apparently) from RT, which is owned by the Russian State. At least CNN and Fox aren't owned by the American Government despite their obvious bias.
What a joke.
This weekends I have drunk vodka with 2 people, One is an immigrant from Crimea, one is an Immigrant from West Ukraine. Both people would say "I have relatives back home", meaning they still think that the place they are from is their home. I am not like them, my home is in the area of NJ that is considered greater NYC.
But these people tell it from the perspective of people who live there, so there is possibility that Ukrainians will march on Kiev to overthrow the government again.
Am I the jerk? You're the one assuming I get my information from FOX News, and what are you basing this on? What an awkward accusation especially taking into consideration that you get your news (apparently) from RT, which is owned by the Russian State. At least CNN and Fox aren't owned by the American Government despite their obvious bias.
What a joke.
EDIT: Oh yeah, that link to The Guardian is ancient news.
What exactly has RT.com printed that was not true ?
I already told you, I compare BBC to RT and assume facts are in the middle. But I don't believe CNN and Fox.
Alright, well, for example Putin denied on numerous occasions that the "Green men" that started the annexation of Crimea was Russian soldiers. Turns out they were Russian soldiers. Here's a link:
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