Covid virus in phoenix (Maricopa: calculator, recreational, Mexicans)

[TempeAZnative]

It's not a coincidence that we are seeing a huge spike after all these protests in that demographic and now those same young people are in restaurants and bars.

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by TempeAZnative

It's not a coincidence that we are seeing a huge spike after all these protests in that demographic and now those same young people are in restaurants and bars.

Here's what I've seen on the TV news.
- Protests, by which I think you're referring to the BLM protests, have a large black contingent, lots of mask wearing.
- The bar scene in Scottsdale, which I saw on the TV news last night, looked totally white, didn't see any mask wearing.

Both groups may have spikes in cases, but I cannot agree that these two groups are one and the same.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by TempeAZnative

It's not a coincidence that we are seeing a huge spike after all these protests in that demographic and now those same young people are in restaurants and bars.

I normally would agree. Yet, I was listening to Sirius XM "Doctor Call" channel today. All the conversations are live and interactive from Doc's from NYC. According to them, they said they have not observed a spike from protesters in NYC.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

I normally would agree. Yet, I was listening to Sirius XM "Doctor Call" channel today. All the conversations are live and interactive from Doc's from NYC. According to them, they said they have not observed a spike from protesters in NYC.

Neither have they in Minnesota. The protests weren’t quite as risky as some seem to want to paint them as. They were outdoors and most wore masks. Other situations that we’ve seen have been indoors and unmasked such as bars, night clubs, political rallies. Those are the activities that need containment. I suspect we’ll eventually follow TX and FL and close down bars again.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Neither have they in Minnesota. The protests weren’t quite as risky as some seem to want to paint them as. They were outdoors and most wore masks. Other situations that we’ve seen have been indoors and unmasked such as bars, night clubs, political rallies. Those are the activities that need containment. I suspect we’ll eventually follow TX and FL and close down bars again.

Actually, you took the words out of their mouth. They were not surprised and the minimum numbers. Also, a limited number of protesters came in for a COVID test (they were encouraged to do so). The data supports their POV. In case anyone is interested, here is the channel https://www.siriusxm.com/doctorradio . I had a lot of windshield time and I learned a few things. I was interested more than normal because of of my son's vocation.

[teddyearp]

Well, I don't even know if this will 'get' to anyone here in this thread, but I'm going to try. Let's look at the real numbers/statistics:


Arizona population: 7,278,717


Source: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/AZ


The numbers as of this posting:
Arizona positives: 66,548
Arizona total tests: 479,823
Arizona deaths: 1,535


Source: https://covidtracking.com/data/state/arizona


I believe the above source has already been linked in this thread. Let's crunch some numbers.


Amount of tests that came out positive: 13.86% Honestly, not too good. But:
Amount of positives that died: 2.3% (pretty much the mortality rate, just like other 'epidemics' have been computed)

Amount of deaths to total amount tested: .319%


For the readers (and anyone else who chooses to have a mind of their own), how does a mortality rate of 2.3% warrant the fear, etc. that has been promulgated upon our citizenry make any common sense at all? And if you think that is the high rate, how about the death rate of .319% of total amount of folks tested relate?


This is why we 'allowed' our .gov to mandate (order) everyone sick or no, to stay home? To close their businesses? Never have we ordered the well to stay home, just the sick. What the heck happened?? The change of focus and narrative.


At first, near the end of March, statistics were used; and we did have infection rates doubling in a week, worse, death rates were statistically higher: tripling and more nationally and worldwide.


But now, they focus on the pure numbers because that seems to make it seem worse. But it has taken two weeks for the infection rate to double in Arizona. Judging from my link, June 12 to June 26. Not good, but no where near some sort of need to cower in fear. In that same time frame, the dead went from 1144 to 1535. An increase of 25.47%.



Wake up people!


Please, before it is too late.

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Neither have they in Minnesota. The protests weren’t quite as risky as some seem to want to paint them as. They were outdoors and most wore masks. Other situations that we’ve seen have been indoors and unmasked such as bars, night clubs, political rallies. Those are the activities that need containment. I suspect we’ll eventually follow TX and FL and close down bars again.

Have they tested more than 13k yet?

[TempeAZnative]

You can keep your head in the sand we are 100% seeing and upkick do to the protests. CA is seeing record number and they have been on lockdown. NY already peaked so you can't compare that. Of course the typical characters parrot talking points.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by TempeAZnative

You can keep your head in the sand we are 100% seeing and upkick do to the protests. CA is seeing record number and they have been on lockdown. NY already peaked so you can't compare that. Of course the typical characters parrot talking points.

Citation?

[wase4711]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

Well, I don't even know if this will 'get' to anyone here in this thread, but I'm going to try. Let's look at the real numbers/statistics:


Arizona population: 7,278,717


Source: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/AZ


The numbers as of this posting:
Arizona positives: 66,548
Arizona total tests: 479,823
Arizona deaths: 1,535


Source: https://covidtracking.com/data/state/arizona


I believe the above source has already been linked in this thread. Let's crunch some numbers.


Amount of tests that came out positive: 13.86% Honestly, not too good. But:
Amount of positives that died: 2.3% (pretty much the mortality rate, just like other 'epidemics' have been computed)

Amount of deaths to total amount tested: .319%


For the readers (and anyone else who chooses to have a mind of their own), how does a mortality rate of 2.3% warrant the fear, etc. that has been promulgated upon our citizenry make any common sense at all? And if you think that is the high rate, how about the death rate of .319% of total amount of folks tested relate?


This is why we 'allowed' our .gov to mandate (order) everyone sick or no, to stay home? To close their businesses? Never have we ordered the well to stay home, just the sick. What the heck happened?? The change of focus and narrative.


At first, near the end of March, statistics were used; and we did have infection rates doubling in a week, worse, death rates were statistically higher: tripling and more nationally and worldwide.


But now, they focus on the pure numbers because that seems to make it seem worse. But it has taken two weeks for the infection rate to double in Arizona. Judging from my link, June 12 to June 26. Not good, but no where near some sort of need to cower in fear. In that same time frame, the dead went from 1144 to 1535. An increase of 25.47%.



Wake up people!


Please, before it is too late.

I get it Teddy..