Covid virus in phoenix (Mesa, Tempe: racism, African-American, Mexican)

[Sno0909]

It is rare that I see a Hispanic person wearing a mask. Especially going into the grocery store or gas station, the landscapers and construction types are never masked. Until stores start enforcing it, I don't expect that to change.

[Sno0909]

Originally Posted by C3155

Im not Hispanic, my uncle died of it it early April. He wasn't ill or any preexisting conditions and spent the last winter traveling the world , his wife suspects he caught it in a German airport on his way home in mid March. My brother had it in April, he caught it from his wife , a nurse both of them healthy. My brother is still short of breath and hasn't used the treadmill since. My father passed away in May he was in a long term care facility we suspect he slso died of it as the facility was on the outbreak list the week following his death. Covid 19 does not discriminate.

Thank you for pointing out that Covid doesn't discriminate. Most of the people on this forum are fairly educated. We don't all agree on many issues, but I can say with certainty that smart people hang out here. That being said, it's how people act and their prevention methods (or lack thereof) that is causing a discrepancy. It has nothing to do with your uncle not being Hispanic.

[asufan]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

I hope I don’t get slapped on the wrist for this and this is anecdotal but even my Mexican friends that are white collar professionals and some are working from home, seem to be going out much more often to restaurants and gatherings. I don’t really understand the discrepancy, but I see it too.

It makes me rethink having my housekeeper over regularly. She’s like family and seems to be cautious but I know she lives with multiple generations in her house and that inherently can be risky. What are others doing on this front?

Yeah we stopped having our housekeeper visit in March. Which is fine I guess because we used to be gone 5-6 night a week for kids events that are now not happening, now we have time.

[ringler24]

Originally Posted by asufan

Yeah we stopped having our housekeeper visit in March. Which is fine I guess because we used to be gone 5-6 night a week for kids events that are now not happening, now we have time.

I hope if you're all continuing to earn the same income, you are considering paying those workers who you are no longer bringing into your homes. They are also trying to put food on the table and often without any government subsidies to support them when things are difficult.





No doubt Hispanics have higher number of cases, but they are also less likely to work in jobs where they can maintain distancing, less likely to be able to work from home, live in multi generational living situations where there are numerous adults going out to different jobs during the day, have less access to healthcare. The list goes on and on. People living in poverty are more likely to be minorities and they are being hit harder by this. etc.. This isn't about groups of people having large parties. That's going on with young affluent white folks.

[asufan]

Originally Posted by ringler24

I hope if you're all continuing to earn the same income, you are considering paying those workers who you are no longer bringing into your homes. They are also trying to put food on the table and often without any government subsidies to support them when things are difficult.





No doubt Hispanics have higher number of cases, but they are also less likely to work in jobs where they can maintain distancing, less likely to be able to work from home, live in multi generational living situations where there are numerous adults going out to different jobs during the day, have less access to healthcare. The list goes on and on. People living in poverty are more likely to be minorities and they are being hit harder by this. etc.. This isn't about groups of people having large parties. That's going on with young affluent white folks.

Nah we're not paying them. Sounds like Detroit has a regular scheduled cleaning, we just have them come as needed, like the power washer or window cleaner we use. It's not like they're our employees, but if it was a regular weekly thing I likely would help out

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by ringler24

I hope if you're all continuing to earn the same income, you are considering paying those workers who you are no longer bringing into your homes. They are also trying to put food on the table and often without any government subsidies to support them when things are difficult.

As I have admitted before, I'm cheap. But I'm going to send my cleaner a check. You bring up a great point.

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by ringler24

... Hispanics ... live in multi generational living situations ...

Exactly the same situation as those towns in Italy where multiple generations live in one small home and where the death toll was horrendous.

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by Mike from back east

Exactly the same situation as those towns in Italy where multiple generations live in one small home and where the death toll was horrendous.

In the US early on I remember the Fusco family in NJ, big family, traveled to Italy, came home, big party, got sick, I think 2 died.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by asufan

I don't fully agree with this, it is largely the Hispanic population. Nogales, Yuma and San Luis hit hard. I think being impoverished is a factor in that they have service type jobs and often share housing, but I think something in the Hispanic culture is also at play here with the large gatherings of extended family that people from Mexico often have. I think eating habits has zero impact on whether you contract the virus or not, it has to do with mortality rate once you have it though.

It might be confused by your post. But what you eat == your overall health. The Native American in AZ is getting hammered for the reasons that I've described. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...n-communities/

"Native Americans appear to have a higher risk of serious complications because they are likelier to suffer from diabetes, heart disease, and other conditions."

Or poor black communities read https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...-hard-covid-19 "Preexisting conditions, such as diabetes, hypertension and obesity that disproportionately impact the African American community. "

OR, the Hispanic community. From https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/opini...les/index.html
"preventive health care exposes them to pre-existing conditions like diabetes, respiratory or heart disease that can prove lethal when contracting the coronavirus. In 2019, the CDC reported that Latinos were 1.7 times more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes than whites, and in 2017 reported that Latinos were twice as likely to visit an emergency room because of asthma than whites."

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by ringler24

I hope if you're all continuing to earn the same income, you are considering paying those workers who you are no longer bringing into your homes. They are also trying to put food on the table and often without any government subsidies to support them when things are difficult.





No doubt Hispanics have higher number of cases, but they are also less likely to work in jobs where they can maintain distancing, less likely to be able to work from home, live in multi generational living situations where there are numerous adults going out to different jobs during the day, have less access to healthcare. The list goes on and on. People living in poverty are more likely to be minorities and they are being hit harder by this. etc.. This isn't about groups of people having large parties. That's going on with young affluent white folks.

One of the stories I linked to was about a family getting it (28 people). What that link left out was that they celebrated Grampa's 60th birthday earlier in the month.
So it's a combo of a lot of factors.