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Originally Posted by chessgeek
Is it also possible that with the helicopter noise from above at the scene, that Crutcher perhaps did not hear the police officers? Helicopters are pretty darn loud. A good officer would use some common sense and consider that. Furthermore, not one other officer believed there was a need to fire a gun, though one other officer did have a taser. That in itself is pretty convincing that she clearly over-reacted. It was clearly not necessary. He was unarmed.
IMO, she deserves to be charged and I believe she will be charged.
Probably no charges. However if there is I bet a not guilty verdict! I love what you say. Helicopter noise. So the cop takes into account the noise from a helicopter. A good officer would consider that? Please tell us your experience as a Police Officer. Also tell us how good a cop were you.
Probably no charges. However if there is I bet a not guilty verdict! I love what you say. Helicopter noise. So the cop takes into account the noise from a helicopter. A good officer would consider that? Please tell us your experience as a Police Officer. Also tell us how good a cop were you.
Yes, it is called common sense. Should occur to them that helicopter noise might affect his hearing them or not. Why would an officer not consider that? If I know that, someone more qualified than me should know that, too. Considering it in real time may have saved a life.
It does not take a course at a police academy to utilize a little common sense.
I have never been an officer. I have served on two juries (one was a double homicide), so know a thing or two about both evidence and common sense. A jury will definitely consider the helicopter noise issue if there are charges filed. There was no requirement that we be officers or retired officers to serve on those juries, consider evidence and make a decision.
Please tell us why only one officer thought it necessary to use deadly force. The other officers did not. The guy was not charging the police and was clearly unarmed. Even the Tulsa police chief was shocked by her reckless act after watching the video. That is the predicament she has in this case. Believe charges are far more likely in this case.
Last edited by chessgeek; 09-21-2016 at 05:59 PM..
Actually I did screw it up or get auto-corrected. But no what I said is it has been examined frame by frame by multiple people who were unable to determine when the bullet hit. This publication was apparently gifted with omniscience and could decide. There still remains as well the fact it did not go through his arm.. So she shot around it?
Any way we will likely know when the autopsy is released.
Most people's arms aren't thicker than their torso. Need to wait for the autopsy.
Yes, it is called common sense. Should occur to them that helicopter noise might affect his hearing them or not. Why would an officer not consider that? If I know that, someone more qualified than me should know that, too.
It does not take a course at a police academy to utilize a little common sense.
I have never been an officer. I have served on two juries (one was a double homicide), so know a thing or two about both evidence and common sense. A jury will definitely consider the helicopter noise issue if there are charges filed. There was no requirement that we be officers or retired officers to serve on those juries, consider evidence and make a decision.
Please tell us why only one officer thought it necessary to use deadly force. The other officers did not. Even the Tulsa police chief was shocked by her actions after watching the video. That is the predicament she has in this case. Believe charges are far more likely in this case.
You know the answer to that I am sure. She was out to kill black people...
She is, at the very least, guilty of manslaughter.
Initially she said he was not following commands. Then the video came out. Oops. The officer apparently has a hard time keeping her story straight. Now it's "he was reaching through the window" except the family says there was blood on the window so the window was up.
I am still trying to understand why a police officer comes upon a stalled car and decides he should be held at gunpoint instead of receiving some sort of assistance. But either way, she has given stories that were later contradicted.
I'm also wondering what he did that warrants the police in the helicopter saying he was a "bad dude". Based on what exactly? And why, while they acknowledge he is following commands, they also anticipate he will be tasered. SOP in Tulsa?
It would be great if this officer was held accountable but you know she won't be. It's Oklahoma.
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Originally Posted by retiredcop111
Oh BTW any one here about that Philando Castille shooting investigation? Or the shooting in Baton Rouge? I said there would be no charges in those cases as well. As long as these are dragging out I bet I am right once again!!!
Are you bragging that police can legally kill when there is no cause? We already know that, we've seen it many times already.
They are not making up that his hands were not up at the moment that he was shot.
He had just been tasered. How many people would you assume maintain the position after being tasered?
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