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I've said what I see as factual, straightforward and as f2f as possible here in the ether. Sugarcoating be damned and no 'big shot' attitude involved. You want to pay for travel for both of us?
Transgender people are a very small percentage of the population, but they are still worthy of being treated as human beings of whatever gender they identify as.
Ryan Andresen had completed the requirements to earn his Eagle Scout award, but his mother, Karen, said his Scoutmaster said he wouldn't get it because he recently came out as gay. The Boy Scouts of America said later Thursday that Andresen was no longer eligible for membership in Scouting because of his sexual orientation and since he does not agree to the BSA's principle of "Duty to God."
They have denied awards after the scout has completed his requirements. The scout fought this and won, I believe.
None of that says or means that young children cannot be transgender. It only suggests that it is rare - which we already knew.
I don't doubt that most young children who show interest in being the other gender outgrow it. But I cannot definitively say that transgenderism cannot occur in young children - I don't think anyone can for sure at this point. They would be the exception, not the rule.
Guess you didn't actually read the studies or just decided to ignore that iatrogenic part. The sources I gave you, if they are biased at all, lean towards post-puberty or adult transgender support. The current trend of gender changing at too young of an age has the potential to permanently hurt far more children with gender dysmorphia or non-compliant gender identity than it could help. They have not been able to identify what children are most likely to remain gender dysmorphic. So far the research indicates there does not appear to be a correlation in the extent of the child's expression of desire to be the other gender, so you can't go by that. They just don't know enough for our society to be advocating mandatory gender shifts at a pre-adult stage.
They do know that parents expressing negative judgement of the child ("You're a freak") does cause psychological problems. Please note that is not the same as telling the child they need to conform to society norms, at least when in public, and when they are old enough to make choices for themselves there will be other options ("Since you are a girl you can't join Boy Scouts, but we'll search for a Girl Scout troop that does a lot of camping").
I know it is the current cool thing to advocate allowing young children to live as their desired gender, that there is a tendency to ignore or dismiss reasearch that contradict one's beliefs, but we are basically doing a social experiment on young children in real time with at least some proven negative outcomes. Are you seriously willing to take above a 70% chance that you are doing irreparable psychological harm to a child?
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Transgender people are a very small percentage of the population, but they are still worthy of being treated as human beings of whatever gender they identify as.
Rules are made to be broken.
What crap. Rules are made for order, structure, safety and consistency. You don't break them. Sometimes you make an exception for a very good reason. Parents thinking their girl is a boy is not a good reason.
Like when a child is born with basically both sets of genitalia.
As happened in my extended family - the doctor could not even tell the Mother if her baby was a boy or a girl. She refused all phone calls while in the hospital because she didn't know what to tell people.
Can you imagine?
Is this child a boy or a girl?
Should this child join the boy scouts or girl scouts?
And what do we do with this child? It's not like there's only ONE.
Suppose THIS child suffers a gender identity crisis? Any compassion? Any?
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Originally Posted by nana053
Transgender people are a very small percentage of the population, but they are still worthy of being treated as human beings of whatever gender they identify as.
Rules are made to be broken.
Absolutely. Human beings are worthy as being treated as human beings. That's all they ask for.
Are you seriously willing to take above a 70% chance that you are doing irreparable psychological harm to a child?
Where is the evidence that allowing a child to behave as transgender who ultimately prefers his conforming gender going to cause "irreparable harm"?
No one is advocating surgery in someone until he or she is old enough to consent for himself or herself.
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