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Old 11-19-2020, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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No, they died from COVID-19, no matter how much you want to deny it.
Then prove it.

 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:13 AM
 
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Getting a tad testy aren't we? Vulnerable does mean every obese or elderly person.
No it doesn't.

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Some number will isolate or so-called avoid the economy. Along with some portion of those in close contact with the vulnerable and who exercise caution for that reason. And some who don't want to risk covid period.

Want to quibble over those numbers and their impact on the economy, then do so. Assertions about some bar or whatever other establishments in Miami you find characteristic of the U.S. economy as a whole don't help that cause. We all know there is a subset who wants to party period.
If 50% isolate, that's still better than closing down large swaths of businesses permanently. That's 0% for them, not 50%.
 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:14 AM
 
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https://www.medicinenet.com/flu/definition.htm

"Flu: Flu is a colloquialism for influenza. The flu is an acute respiratory illness caused by influenza viruses A or B."
That is one definition. In reality, people say they have the 'flu' when they develop certain symptoms. And those symptoms can be caused by other viruses, not just influenza. Almost no one gets tested for influenza before proclaiming they have the flu.
 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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No, they died from COVID-19, no matter how much you want to deny it.
In reality you don't know it. Even taking the CDC guidelines, it's not clear everyone followed them when listing a death as a covid death, and being counted in the statistics.
 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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No, they died from COVID-19, no matter how much you want to deny it.
That's a bold an erroneous statement. They can't even isolate the virus in the first place. You are wrong.
 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:27 AM
 
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In reality you don't know it. Even taking the CDC guidelines, it's not clear everyone followed them when listing a death as a covid death, and being counted in the statistics.
Explain the reason for the excess deaths (the number exceeds official Covid count) compared to the same period last year.

Was it the inability to party during the "lockdowns"?
 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:31 AM
 
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No it doesn't.

If 50% isolate, that's still better than closing down large swaths of businesses permanently. That's 0% for them, not 50%.
Many business models cannot survive if 50% of the customer base is lost. Still that's largely irrelevant to what you or others may be saying (haven't read that much). The reason given by governmental authorities for shuttering or restricting businesses is to protect hospital bed availability.

Think covid doesn't exist or isn't problematic then fine. But people are walking into or more precisely being taken by ambulance to hospitals. Doctors are putting them into hospitals beds. Germs do exist. Something is spreading. Doctors do have the ability to distinguish between heart attacks and an infectious disease.

We'd better hope to G'd that something is covid because the SARS-CoV-2 virus is what vaccines are being developed to counter.
 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:41 AM
 
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Then prove it.

She cannot... There WAY to much evidence from my personal experience to official and anecdotal that many deaths was WITH, not FROM CV19.
 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:46 AM
 
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That's a bold an erroneous statement. They can't even isolate the virus in the first place. You are wrong.

Those damn, bogus PCR tests that labs purposely run high amp counts to trigger positive cases that NO ones talks about. This scamdemic is now driven by #$@ing cases, cases, CASES! Not deaths or hospitalizations!
 
Old 11-19-2020, 10:48 AM
 
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Explain the reason for the excess deaths (the number exceeds official Covid count) compared to the same period last year.

Was it the inability to party during the "lockdowns"?
There is clearly a new virus, getting some people sick, and killing others. So there will be excess deaths.

But, most of these excess deaths, are probably more the result of lockdowns than this joke of a virus which never even gave me a sniffle (not seeing their doctors, economic downturn, there is always a huge rise in excess deaths during economic downturns, see data from the great depression).
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