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Old 06-14-2010, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I guess my concern is that this is just another dealbreaker, and I'm getting so many, that I'm probably eliminating lots of women. Stuff like ever having had sex in exchange for anything of value (be it money, rent, whatever) is an absolutely dealbreaker for me. Women knowingly having sex with married guys, is a dealbreaker for me..

 
Old 06-14-2010, 01:43 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Because there's more drama if she bangs guys who are not available.

Why anyone would get married and expect a committed, life long relationship today has to be delusional or insane given the divorce rates, the infidelity rates.

So why are people getting married?
I guess you don't come across as forbidden fruit. Maybe you'll get more woman, if you wear a wedding band. I'm kidding. I'd never make a mockery of marriage.

I think some people jump into marriage without discussing expectations. Instead of dealing with marital issues, they choose to cheat on their spouse.
 
Old 06-14-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I guess you don't come across as forbidden fruit. Maybe you'll get more woman, if you wear a wedding band. I'm kidding. I'd never make a mockery of marriage.

I think some people jump into marriage without discussing expectations. Instead of dealing with marital issues, they choose to cheat on their spouse.
But it's not even hidden that the divorce rate is incredibly high, yet they still are getting married, knowing the consequences. Something still isn't adding up.

You cannot logically think "oh, there's a 51% divorce rate, but it won't happen to me" when the odds are MORE likely than not than you will get divorced due to just the statistics...
 
Old 06-14-2010, 02:09 PM
 
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yeah, but why are these guys so popular with women? There's all these single guys out there, yet she only can manage to find married guys?

Hi betamanlet,

One reason is attractive people are just more attractive to everyone.

The other is more interesting. Have you never heard of pre-selection? This has been confirmed in studies from birds to humans. Females use other females as proxies to judge mate worthiness. The collective judgment of many females does seem to play a role even all other things being equal.

Though its intresting your perspective since the single in this context has only a moral responsibity whereas the married party also has a personal obligation.
 
Old 06-14-2010, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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I guess my concern is that this is just another dealbreaker, and I'm getting so many, that I'm probably eliminating lots of women. Stuff like ever having had sex in exchange for anything of value (be it money, rent, whatever) is an absolutely dealbreaker for me. Women knowingly having sex with married guys, is a dealbreaker for me..
Look on the bright side. Having eliminated so many, it should be easier to find ONE from among the remaining candidates. You don't need thousands to choose from, if a good match can be found in the much smaller number who meet your standards. Lucky you! Dating just got simpler!
 
Old 06-14-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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But it's not even hidden that the divorce rate is incredibly high, yet they still are getting married, knowing the consequences. Something still isn't adding up.

You cannot logically think "oh, there's a 51% divorce rate, but it won't happen to me" when the odds are MORE likely than not than you will get divorced due to just the statistics...
People defy odds all the time. Some build homes in earthquake prone areas, other live in trailers in tornado alley. Most people survive disasters. If people always worried about odds, we would stagnate. Risk is what has made us successful. Sometimes you have to take a chance on love. If the relationship doesn't work, divorce isn't death. Your life won't end due to a failed relationship.
 
Old 06-14-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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But it's not even hidden that the divorce rate is incredibly high, yet they still are getting married, knowing the consequences. Something still isn't adding up.

You cannot logically think "oh, there's a 51% divorce rate, but it won't happen to me" when the odds are MORE likely than not than you will get divorced due to just the statistics...

Actually, divorce rates have been coming down in recent years - the figure is under 50%, closer to 40% I believe - which means that MORE than 50% of marriages don't end in divorce.

But again, you are concentrating on all the minutia surrounding marriage instead of YOUR own issues. Have you ever considered speaking to a therapist?
 
Old 06-14-2010, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Hi betamanlet,

One reason is attractive people are just more attractive to everyone.

The other is more interesting. Have you never heard of pre-selection? This has been confirmed in studies from birds to humans. Females use other females as proxies to judge mate worthiness. The collective judgment of many females does seem to play a role even all other things being equal.

Though its intresting your perspective since the single in this context has only a moral responsibity whereas the married party also has a personal obligation.
you describe a herd mentality.
 
Old 06-14-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Actually, divorce rates have been coming down in recent years - the figure is under 50%, closer to 40% I believe - which means that MORE than 50% of marriages don't end in divorce.

But again, you are concentrating on all the minutia surrounding marriage instead of YOUR own issues. Have you ever considered speaking to a therapist?
I'm saying that the odds are much greater than not that any particular women i date will have done things that I consider to be dealbreakers, and that I would think any rational person, looking for a committed, and stable, life long relationship, would consider dealbreakers too.
 
Old 06-14-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Okay..we know you dislike women..what else is new

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How common is this, or some equivalent lack of morals in men? I know lots of women that i grew up with, same high school, that have at some point, been involved with married guys. I know more women who have done this than have not. It can't be some giant coincidence, right? That I just happen to know a lot of females lacking morals? The lastest one is my best friend's sister... is this just something you're going to have to accept with someone these days, that they've done some horrible things?
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