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Remind me again how we have harmed you? Your side once said that all you wanted was the right to marry. And that was the end of it. You won, and it wasn't the end. You are STILL complaining that we are just blocking all your civil rights. The truth is your side will never be satisfied until every American is forced to accept an immoral lifestyle or be punished. It's all about power and control.
The only thing this thread accomplished was showing just how twisted and unfair your side can be. You take a tragedy and use it as a convenient tool to go after Christians. Disgraceful.
No, my side has stated we want to be treated equally under the law, and yet there are new laws popping up all the time that deny us basic protections that others have. You can not be refused service because you are a Christian, but I can because I am a lesbian. You can not be refused housing or a job because you are a Christian, but I can because I am a lesbian. You can not be refused government services because you are a Christian, but I can because I am a lesbian.
Twisted and unfair? Maybe you were looking in a mirror when you typed that, because you are the one that constantly push for laws that treat me as less than.
God's intelligence is like a billion times greater than ours. And yet you are going to claim you could do a better job at being God? T
Then how do you explain all the mega stuff ups this god has made through the ages? Do I nee do mention the starving children in Africa? Why the need for 'the flood'? Why the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden? Nothing we observe or read about in the bible suggests much of an intelligence. In fact, what we read about in the bible smacks of human intelligence and no more.
No, my side has stated we want to be treated equally under the law, and yet there are new laws popping up all the time that deny us basic protections that others have. You can not be refused service because you are a Christian, but I can because I am a lesbian. You can not be refused housing or a job because you are a Christian, but I can because I am a lesbian. You can not be refused government services because you are a Christian, but I can because I am a lesbian.
Twisted and unfair? Maybe you were looking in a mirror when you typed that, because you are the one that constantly push for laws that treat me as less than.
Then how do you explain all the mega stuff ups this god has made through the ages? Do I nee do mention the starving children in Africa? Why the need for 'the flood'? Why the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden? Nothing we observe or read about in the bible suggests much of an intelligence. In fact, what we read about in the bible smacks of human intelligence and no more.
Again, a demonstration of human's limited intelligence. God exists outside of time. There is no beginning and end. We could only understand such bookends and time as a linear fashion. If the past and future have no meaning then there is only the now. And in the now, God saw the hearts of man and it was all wicked. Why would you let that continue?
There is plenty in the Bible that smacks of divine intelligence like the foretelling of Christ coming all the way back in Genesis. As for starving children in Africa, why is that God's fault? Man chose to bring sin into this world which in turn brought death and suffering along with it. God gives us plenty of food and places to grow food. We choose to live in harse environments like the dessert or flood plains and then shake our fist at God when bad things happen. If man is stupid enough to put their hut right next to a volcano, do you blame God for creating volcanos?
God does plan to end all suffering one day. Human intelligence wants things to happen instantly. God sees the bigger picture like being patient so as many people can be saved as possible before pulling the plug forever. Eternal salvation trumps ending temporary physical suffering every time. If you are God then from His perspective, all you are doing is delaying the physical death anyways.
As for starving children in Africa, why is that God's fault? Man chose to bring sin into this world which in turn brought death and suffering along with it. God gives us plenty of food and places to grow food. We choose to live in harse environments like the dessert or flood plains and then shake our fist at God when bad things happen. If man is stupid enough to put their hut right next to a volcano, do you blame God for creating volcanos?
God does plan to end all suffering one day. Human intelligence wants things to happen instantly. God sees the bigger picture like being patient so as many people can be saved as possible before pulling the plug forever. Eternal salvation trumps ending temporary physical suffering every time. If you are God then from His perspective, all you are doing is delaying the physical death anyways.
So how is a universe controlled by the Christian God any different than a universe with no Christian God at all? If I have to wait until after I die to see any tangible benefits or evidence from the Christian God, then what good is the Christian God?
If I offered to pay you $5 million after your death, in exchange for a lifetime of your unquestioned obedience to me, would you take the deal?
Again, a demonstration of human's limited intelligence. God exists outside of time. There is no beginning and end. We could only understand such bookends and time as a linear fashion. If the past and future have no meaning then there is only the now. And in the now, God saw the hearts of man and it was all wicked. Why would you let that continue?
There is plenty in the Bible that smacks of divine intelligence like the foretelling of Christ coming all the way back in Genesis. As for starving children in Africa, why is that God's fault? Man chose to bring sin into this world which in turn brought death and suffering along with it. God gives us plenty of food and places to grow food. We choose to live in harse environments like the dessert or flood plains and then shake our fist at God when bad things happen. If man is stupid enough to put their hut right next to a volcano, do you blame God for creating volcanos?
God does plan to end all suffering one day. Human intelligence wants things to happen instantly. God sees the bigger picture like being patient so as many people can be saved as possible before pulling the plug forever. Eternal salvation trumps ending temporary physical suffering every time. If you are God then from His perspective, all you are doing is delaying the physical death anyways.
The problem with this argument is that statistics show that more and more people are going to go to Hell by evangelical Christians standards each year , so a longer existence for our universe has the effect of ever increasing the number of people in Hell . This sort of logic is why fundamentals receive so much scorn .
Pastor Donnie Romero, down in Forth Worth, Texas, offers his Christian perspective:
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These 50 sodomites are all perverts and pedophiles, and they are the scum of the earth, and the earth is a little bit better place now," Romero said in his sermon. "And I’ll take it a step further, because I heard on the news today, that there are still several dozen of these queers in ICU and intensive care. And I will pray to God like I did this morning, I will do it tonight, I’ll pray that God will finish the job that that man started, and he will end their life, and by tomorrow morning they will all be burning in hell, just like the rest of them, so that they don’t get any more opportunity to go out and hurt little children.
Again, a demonstration of human's limited intelligence. God exists outside of time. There is no beginning and end.
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Originally Posted by The Last Amalekite 1Sam15
Where is god world located Jeff and what created it?
Come on jeffbase40. You're not avoiding the question are ya?
with all you wisdom of god and man-god this shouldn't be that tough for you.
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