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Old 05-19-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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Most definitely yes, and even worse than that.
The USA had a black president. Which Latin American or Mediterranean nation can make that claim?

People who compared Obama to a chimp usually lost their jobs.
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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Some people from Equatorial Guinea do identify as Spanish,..


Yes the mulatto elites. But go into the villages and show them pictures of Spain and Nigeria and ask them which they can more readily identify with.
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:52 AM
 
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.Angolans might feel some affinity with Brazil.

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You do know that Brazil has a very heavy Angolan component within its culture, given that 80% of the enslaved peoples who were transported had their origins there. So there is much in Brazilian culture that is familiar to them. Just as a Nigerian can identify with aspects of Jamaican culture.
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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And Latin countries don't? Then tell us why in almost every single Latin American nation the media is disproportionately white and the overwhelming majority of the darkest people are among the poorest.


Maybe you guys should care more about races so the blatant racism which is so evident will be reduced.


By the way an black Minister of government in Italy was called a monkey by an MP. Do you think that this would happen in the USA, UK, or Canada? And about those banana incidents at football matches in Spain and Italy....................
People have said nasty stuff about the Obama, and no they did not always get fired.
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:38 PM
 
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The USA had a black president. Which Latin American or Mediterranean nation can make that claim?

People who compared Obama to a chimp usually lost their jobs.
Peru has had an Asian President, Argentina an Arab President, and Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Nicaragua, Panama, etc have all had women Presidents, while the US cannot make those claims.
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:39 PM
 
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Does it really matter since their is no pure race. Furthermore different culture and nations are establishing their own unique identity outside of the western and anglo saxons culture.
Very true.
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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And Latin countries don't? Then tell us why in almost every single Latin American nation the media is disproportionately white and the overwhelming majority of the darkest people are among the poorest.


Maybe you guys should care more about races so the blatant racism which is so evident will be reduced.


By the way an black Minister of government in Italy was called a monkey by an MP. Do you think that this would happen in the USA, UK, or Canada? And about those banana incidents at football matches in Spain and Italy....................
I just watched the Celia Cruz series produced in Colombia a couple of years ago, and there were a lot of Black people in that television series. I've watched a number of Brazilian films with Black people in them as well.

I think the statements you just made are essentially false. How visible Black people are in the media of Latin nations will depend enormously on the nation. You sound like you like to read stuff written ABOUT Latin America that took place 30 or 40 years ago.
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:43 PM
 
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These days there are a lot of African immigrants in Spain itself, and for that matter in other Mediterranean countries.
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:32 PM
 
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People have said nasty stuff about the Obama, and no they did not always get fired.
If they call Obama a chimp or an ape and occupy a role where public image is important yes they do. Querying whether Obama was born in the USA may arise from a racist sentiment but isn't itself a racist statement.

At FOX TV a senior executive insulted a black IT employee in a racial way. GONE!
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:58 PM
 
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I just watched the Celia Cruz series produced in Colombia a couple of years ago, and there were a lot of Black people in that television series. I've watched a number of Brazilian films with Black people in them as well.

I think the statements you just made are essentially false. How visible Black people are in the media of Latin nations will depend enormously on the nation. You sound like you like to read stuff written ABOUT Latin America that took place 30 or 40 years ago.
Celia Cruz was a black woman, and operated within the context of an Afro Cuban genre so obviously "blacks" would have gotten roles. However a Cuban I know was incensed that actor chosen to portray her was significantly lighter than Celia. He thought that this was a deliberate attempt to make Celia less representative of the Afro Latin cultural experience than she in fact was. It would be like casting Jesse Williams to act as MLK.

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I will defer to Brazilian blacks on this as they know way more on this than you do. Now Brazil screams that it has "no racism" and a higher % of its population have visible evidence of Afro Descendant ancestry so one can ponder why the USA has more black representation, and a broader range of it than does the USA.

And this was NOT 30 years ago either!

Brazil and Colombia have population which are as much or MORE Afro descendant in composition than that of the USA, so cease with your implications of some nation with an ethnic composition like Paraguay.

I will ask how often do you see blacks as professionals in Colombia as we now frequently see in the USA. Gone are the days when only street drug dealers dominated portrayals of blacks in the USA.
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