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Old 10-24-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I grew up in the northeast. My mother always tells this story about how when I was only 7 years old I would complain for weeks on end about how much I hated the cold and the snow. And I remember her always telling me to appreciate the seasons (she's one of the weirdos who likes cold weather.)

Now, I'm older, and still can't stand the seasons. The moment I turned 18 I fled south as fast as I could!

I definitely appreciate the colorful leaves during fall which New England has, but only for a very short period of time. Like one day lol. The feeling of cold air hitting my skin is absolutely miserable to me.

Living here in Raleigh is a nice in between. It gets chilly, but not nearly as awful as what I grew up experiencing. I remember looking out the window at the rain when I was little and wondering why my parents moved there lol.
I don't disagree with you but right now its 70 degrees in Boston and the trees are orange, red and yellow.

I love the change of seasons. What I don't like is February and March
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Center City
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This thread is about seasonal weather, not activities. Believe it or not, people in non-four-seasons climates also pick pumpkins, celebrate Halloween, and visit Grandma at Thanksgiving.
Yes, people around the country trick or treat, join family for Thanksgiving, attend college football games and Christmas shop. But some of them do all of this in shorts.
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Of course, if one's definition of "fall" is "September, October, and November, with everything that happens in them," then fall lasts three months. It lasts three months everywhere. What I question is whether this amazing, soul-inspiring crisp weather and foliage lasts three months. Actually, it sounds like you're even including December in fall, so hmmm.
It does in a lot of places....outside of the south.
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Yes, people around the country trick or treat, join family for Thanksgiving, attend college football games and Christmas shop. But some of them do all of this in shorts.
Will be in the 80s in my hometown of CC well into November. Good for some people, bad for others.
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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First of all, fall lasts until December 21.
By the way, you are correct for astronomical fall, but not for meteorological fall. Meteorological fall is September, October, November.
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Old 10-24-2017, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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according to the Royal Order of the Twenty-firsters, spring begins December 21st when the days start getting longer

Joe Soucheray: The 21sters ae back and thinking spring! Twin Cities
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Old 10-24-2017, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Center City
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By the way, you are correct for astronomical fall, but not for meteorological fall. Meteorological fall is September, October, November.
How does that change things? During those months, people in some parts of the country run around in tee shirts and shorts and drink ice tea while those in other parts of the country wear sweaters and wind breakers and sip hot chocolate.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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How does that change things? During those months, people in some parts of the country run around in tee shirts and shorts and drink ice tea while those in other parts of the country wear sweaters and wind breakers and sip hot chocolate.
There are two systems, astronomical and meteorological. Astronomical fall is roughly September 21 to December 21. Meteorological fall is September 1 to November 30. And the reason that's important to understand is so that people do not get confused, conflate the two systems, and claim that fall lasts from right after Labor Day (which can be as early as September 2) until Christmas:

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Fall is much more than a few weeks. After Labor Day, its time to start tailgating again and enjoy the return of cooler weather. Fresh apples and cider come on in October, along with pumpkin patches and haunted houses. The leaves turn in throughout October and after Halloween, the holidays start. Its time to bundle up and visit family and friends for Thanksgiving. Throughout December, there are holiday parades and parties and with any luck, a white Christmas on December 25. As I began, fall is much more than a few weeks.
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Old 10-24-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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There are two systems, astronomical and meteorological. Astronomical fall is roughly September 21 to December 21. Meteorological fall is September 1 to November 30. And the reason that's important to understand is so that people do not get confused, conflate the two systems, and claim that fall lasts from right after Labor Day (which can be as early as September 2) until Christmas:
No one is confused. And so, I repeat:
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How does that change things? During those months, people in some parts of the country run around in tee shirts and shorts and drink ice tea while those in other parts of the country wear sweaters and wind breakers and sip hot chocolate.
Pick your favorite autumnal calendar. The above is true for astrological and meteorological autumn, n’est-ce pas?
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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Pick your favorite autumnal calendar. The above is true for astrological and meteorological autumn, nest-ce pas?
I prefer meteorological. But that's all beside the point, which was fall foliage. I believe I stated that the glorious fall foliage lasts only a few weeks. I think most people, whatever their location, would agree that it does not last for three months and certainly not from September 1 to Christmas.
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