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Old 07-21-2013, 10:42 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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The competition. Andywire has used a musical chairs analogy before and I feel it is a good one. There are a LOT of people looking for jobs, however only a few companies with open spots for jobs. So when these positions go, you are stuck with whatever is left.

Only if you allow yourself to be stuck with whatever is left. Someone who feels they have skills will come up with ways to find jobs in places that most of the competition isn't looking.

Free City Papers
Local Papers that are not free
Job Hotline Telephone number
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:49 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Only if you allow yourself to be stuck with whatever is left. Someone who feels they have skills will come up with ways to find jobs in places that most of the competition isn't looking.

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Surely you're not saying that these resources you've listed are resources that people looking for jobs don't know exist and that knowledge of them is confined to only a very few special people? Surely not.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Surely you're not saying that these resources you've listed are resources that people looking for jobs don't know exist and that knowledge of them is confined to only a very few special people? Surely not.

I think free and non-free papers pretty much covers all print ads .... and don't call him Shirley.

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Old 07-21-2013, 11:07 AM
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Don't call him Shirley.


Fan of the Office I see lol
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:09 AM
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Surely you're not saying that these resources you've listed are resources that people looking for jobs don't know exist and that knowledge of them is confined to only a very few special people? Surely not.

Most job seekers are programmed to look for jobs in the places below

Internet
Job Fairs


I believe you do everything you can to separate yourself from the competition.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:19 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Fan of the Office I see lol
LOL indeed. Nielsen wasn't in "The Office" and the phrase didn't come from there.

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Most job seekers are programmed to look for jobs in the places below

Internet
Job Fairs
That's simply not true. Most intelligent job seekers use every resource available to find a position and aren't "programmed" to limit that search.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Only if you allow yourself to be stuck with whatever is left. Someone who feels they have skills will come up with ways to find jobs in places that most of the competition isn't looking.

Free City Papers
Local Papers that are not free
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How does that help YOU find a job that no one else have privilege to. The point of the music chairs comment is that there are far more job seekers than jobs. I wasn't even talking about how the jobs are promoted whether it is internal, career fairs, in papers (free or paid), television commercials (GE does this) or through online advertising.

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Surely you're not saying that these resources you've listed are resources that people looking for jobs don't know exist and that knowledge of them is confined to only a very few special people? Surely not.
Yeah, I doubt that there would be too much of significant drop in how many people use print advertising to find jobs.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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Fan of the Office I see lol
The Office? Never seen Airplane I see.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:01 PM
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How does that help YOU find a job that no one else have privilege to. The point of the music chairs comment is that there are far more job seekers than jobs. I wasn't even talking about how the jobs are promoted whether it is internal, career fairs, in papers (free or paid), television commercials (GE does this) or through online advertising.



Yeah, I doubt that there would be too much of significant drop in how many people use print advertising to find jobs.

You made the statement someone is stuck with whatever jobs are left and i responded with not if they start looking in places that don't have a lot of eye traffic.

For example, in the Philly Sunday paper, some of the jobs in posted inside the paper are not shown if you read the paper online. So that's why I said someone fresh out of college maybe to find a job as a front desk agent which is a lot better than retail or fast food
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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You made the statement someone is stuck with whatever jobs are left and i responded with not if they start looking in places that don't have a lot of eye traffic.

For example, in the Philly Sunday paper, some of the jobs in posted inside the paper are not shown if you read the paper online. So that's why I said someone fresh out of college maybe to find a job as a front desk agent which is a lot better than retail or fast food
The point being made is that you are taking an enormous leap in assuming that the general public - whatever the age - doesn't know that there are jobs advertised in the newspapers as in IN PRINT. This generalization is totally out there and is simply not true. I'm guessing that you recently came across someone who'd forgotten about actually looking in the classified ads of a print newspaper for a job. Based on that you've now decided that everyone is ignorant about the resource. That's funny.
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