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Old 06-30-2019, 01:23 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Minor correction. This Lee press is not "cheap", it is "inexpensive". Nothing cheap about it. It's a good quality press. Lee makes good stuff and is generally less expensive than competitor's equipment.

I use Redding equipment purchased from the Angeles Shooting Ranges pro shop in the Valley. It's a very well supplied shop where you can get everything you'll ever need, and at quite reasonable prices.
Absolutely. I think I'm the only person I know to ever break a press. But, they replaced it for free.


I've yet to run into any junk reloading equipment. Even my old pacific that you pull up vs push down. It gives you a change of direction and gives your arms a chance to recover doing big batches.
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Old 06-30-2019, 01:26 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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For someone who's been through the military, your reading comprehension is low.
Hate to break it to you man but MANY who have served are on the left. Ever heard of John F Kennedy? He was an officer in the United States Navy before he became the President.

(and I'm a more conservative Democrat, so I agree with him on most things, and disagree with Sanders, AOC, etc. They are too far to the left for me.)

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Firearms purchase requires a NICS background check. It's already the law. Enforce existing laws.
Exactly. So what's your problem with conducting said background check? The law says a felon cannot have in their possession firearms OR ammunition. Therefore we need to background check for ammunition as well.

I still don't see the problem.

Just for the record: you agree that a background check for ammunition and firearms is NOT a violation of the 2nd Amendment, correct?
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Old 06-30-2019, 04:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The only sure work around would be to simply keep all felons locked up. These are gimmicks and any felon will just laugh at them.
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:42 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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The only sure work around would be to simply keep all felons locked up. These are gimmicks and any felon will just laugh at them.
Why have any laws, then, angry taxpayer? Why make murder against the law? people still commit murder. Why make theft against the law?

This makes it harder for a felon to acquire firearms or ammunition. Do you really want it to be EASIER for such people to get firearms???

Do you also want it to be legal for a person with multiple DUIs to drive? Or a convicted child rapist to live near an elementary school?
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why have any laws, then, angry taxpayer? Why make murder against the law? people still commit murder. Why make theft against the law?

This makes it harder for a felon to acquire firearms or ammunition. Do you really want it to be EASIER for such people to get firearms???

Do you also want it to be legal for a person with multiple DUIs to drive? Or a convicted child rapist to live near an elementary school?


All of the existing laws are already tack on charges for a crime. Do you get that? A felon in possession is well, a felony. You either get it or you don't. It doesn't make it really harder at all. It's more of an annoyance. But in the meantime it annoys ALL of the people that aren't going to commit a felony in the first place. And costs money.




Like I said, you either get it or you don't, and never well "get it". What does a stupid ammo card law have to do with a felon having a firearm? Answer, nothing. Your strawman child rapist response is really far off the charts. That is all emotion and zero logic comparing that to a silly ammo law.
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:32 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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A felon in possession is well, a felony. You either get it or you don't.
Yes, it's a felony. So how are we to enforce it, if we don't do a background check?

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It doesn't make it really harder at all. It's more of an annoyance.
Again, do you want it to be EASIER to get a firearm if you're a felon, or HARDER?? Personally I want it to be as difficult as possible for a felon to acquire a firearm. But then, I have some common sense and some familiarity with firearms.

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But in the meantime it annoys ALL of the people that aren't going to commit a felony in the first place. And costs money.
How horrible! You're annoyed and had to pay money! Oh the humanity!


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Like I said, you either get it or you don't, and never well "get it". What does a stupid ammo card law have to do with a felon having a firearm?
Makes it so they have to go through the black market.

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Your strawman child rapist response is really far off the charts.
So then you agree that laws are useful? Make up your mind.
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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It adda big additional expense every time you buy ammo.
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:56 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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It adda big additional expense every time you buy ammo.

Yeah, we can't have that. We don't have any issues with gun violence here in the USA.
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Yeah, we can't have that. We don't have any issues with gun violence here in the USA.
Yes we do, despite all of the laws on guns already
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:13 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Yes we do, despite all of the laws on guns already
We don't control guns that tightly at all. We have an individual right to firearms per the 2nd Amendment. Which I support. But I don't see the problem with doing a background check on ammo SINCE IT IS ILLEGAL TO OWN AMMO IF YOU ARE A FELON....AND IT HAS BEEN ILLEGAL SINCE THE 60s....SO THIS IS ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAWS. The way it was before, you didn't have to do a NICS check for ammo, which made no sense, since that meant that if you were a felon you could buy something that the law said it was illegal for you to own. This is simply making it so we actually enforce the law against a felon owning ammo.

I don't see the problem, and no one has been able to explain the problem with this law, so far.
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