California's new ammunition law takes effect July 1st (Fortuna: live in, store)

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

The law says that a felon can't own firearms or ammunition, period. Just as we do a background check whenever you buy a firearm, we should also do it whenever you buy ammunition.

Likewise, non-citizens cannot vote. We need to do checks every time anyone votes.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

That's 80,000 prevented from legally purchasing a firearm.

That's so comforting knowing that he can now legally buy the 80% parts kit instead. That would be legally and you can make one in an hour. Meanwhile we didn't do a thing about this felon attempting to buy a weapon but slap their wrist. What a stupid @$%$ law.


But we "did something" right? Even if something is actually nothing.

[DriveNotCommute]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

The law says that a felon can't own firearms or ammunition, period. Just as we do a background check whenever you buy a firearm, we should also do it whenever you buy ammunition.

In my case, I resent being viewed as a potential felon. There's a presumption of guilt with this system.

And all for what? The real-world arguments are sort of tired [criminals will simply purchase on the black market, most of the recent mass shooters obtained their weapons and supplies legally, etc.] but legitimate. If there's going to be no real value derived from this law, why would an already law-abiding citizen want to put up with this?

[V8 Vega]

The reason your viewed as a potential felon is to a Democrat the only possible reason to own a gun is to murder other people.

[HB2HSV]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

The reason your viewed as a potential felon is to a Democrat the only possible reason to own a gun is to murder other people.

^^^ THIS ^^^

The same with their starting questin "WHY do you need a gun?"

[1AngryTaxPayer]

The new law is barring legal immigrants from buying ammo who only have a regular ID and can't get the new one.

[Electrician4you]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

We don't control guns that tightly at all. We have an individual right to firearms per the 2nd Amendment. Which I support. But I don't see the problem with doing a background check on ammo SINCE IT IS ILLEGAL TO OWN AMMO IF YOU ARE A FELON....AND IT HAS BEEN ILLEGAL SINCE THE 60s....SO THIS IS ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAWS. The way it was before, you didn't have to do a NICS check for ammo, which made no sense, since that meant that if you were a felon you could buy something that the law said it was illegal for you to own. This is simply making it so we actually enforce the law against a felon owning ammo.

I don't see the problem, and no one has been able to explain the problem with this law, so far.

You don’t see a problem because you don’t want to see a problem. You most likely do not own guns probably don’t care or like guns. What if something you had a passion for was suddenly subject to background check. I’m betting you wouldn’t be happy.


So why would a felon need to be background checked when buying ammo, since they aren’t allowed to have a gun in their possession? How’s that gun law working out? Not very well from what I see. Ammo should be worthless to them. I mean by saying that there is a “need for this law” to do background checks to keep felons buying ammo basically acknowledges the fact that keeping guns away from felons....really does not work. So basically the law can’t keep guns out of felons hands so let’s try to keep ammo out of their hands. Which is gonna work about as well as keeping guns or drugs out of a felons possession. Basically none at all.

. It’s just another feel good law that simply added another step for law abiding citizens to deal with when purchasing ammo under the pretense of safety and keeping bad stuff from felons. This law is laughably stupid and anyone with a modicum of common sense would see through it.

[ysr_racer]

Originally Posted by Electrician4you

You don’t see a problem because you don’t want to see a problem. You most likely do not own guns probably don’t care or like guns. What if something you had a passion for was suddenly subject to background check. I’m betting you wouldn’t be happy.


So why would a felon need to be background checked when buying ammo, since they aren’t allowed to have a gun in their possession? How’s that gun law working out? Not very well from what I see. Ammo should be worthless to them. I mean by saying that there is a “need for this law” to do background checks to keep felons buying ammo basically acknowledges the fact that keeping guns away from felons....really does not work. So basically the law can’t keep guns out of felons hands so let’s try to keep ammo out of their hands. Which is gonna work about as well as keeping guns or drugs out of a felons possession. Basically none at all.

. It’s just another feel good law that simply added another step for law abiding citizens to deal with when purchasing ammo under the pretense of safety and keeping bad stuff from felons. This law is laughably stupid and anyone with a modicum of common sense would see through it.

Please don't bring logic and reason to an Internet discussion

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Electrician4you

You don’t see a problem because you don’t want to see a problem. You most likely do not own guns probably don’t care or like guns. What if something you had a passion for was suddenly subject to background check. I’m betting you wouldn’t be happy.


So why would a felon need to be background checked when buying ammo, since they aren’t allowed to have a gun in their possession? How’s that gun law working out? Not very well from what I see. Ammo should be worthless to them. I mean by saying that there is a “need for this law” to do background checks to keep felons buying ammo basically acknowledges the fact that keeping guns away from felons....really does not work. So basically the law can’t keep guns out of felons hands so let’s try to keep ammo out of their hands. Which is gonna work about as well as keeping guns or drugs out of a felons possession. Basically none at all.

. It’s just another feel good law that simply added another step for law abiding citizens to deal with when purchasing ammo under the pretense of safety and keeping bad stuff from felons. This law is laughably stupid and anyone with a modicum of common sense would see through it.

I just loaded a box of precision .300 win mag this am from stuff I've had for 20 years on the shelf.

[Electrician4you]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

Please don't bring logic and reason to an Internet discussion

I know. What the hell was I thinking. Thank god I reload. I’m sure a felon can reload...right? Oops I did it again