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Old 08-10-2021, 12:19 PM
 
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Moses gave the law of God to the people of Israel; of course he didn't change it; for God gave the law through Moses (John 1:17).
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Old 08-10-2021, 03:10 PM
 
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Moses gave the law of God to the people of Israel; of course he didn't change it; for God gave the law through Moses (John 1:17).
well then you are disagreeing with Jesus who said Moses change what God had originally said
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:12 PM
 
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Moses did not have the authority to change Gods law, where the heck do you get that idea?
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well then you are disagreeing with Jesus who said Moses change what God had originally said
Am I reading this right?

Because if I am - this tells me you don't even understand what you are posting - because these are in direct opposition to each other.
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Old 08-10-2021, 11:55 PM
 
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Am I reading this right?

Because if I am - this tells me you don't even understand what you are posting - because these are in direct opposition to each other.
You're not comprehending what he said? Which happens when you isolate a portion of what was said in context.
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Old 08-11-2021, 04:44 AM
 
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Am I reading this right?

Because if I am - this tells me you don't even understand what you are posting - because these are in direct opposition to each other.
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You're not comprehending what he said? Which happens when you isolate a portion of what was said in context.
yup he needs to follow along with the discussion
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Old 08-11-2021, 05:46 AM
 
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well then you are disagreeing with Jesus who said Moses change what God had originally said
I'm sorry I don't see that. Where do you see Jesus saying that Moses changed what God originally said?

Moses gave the law; which pertains to government.

Jesus qualified Moses' statement, that he permitted people to write a bill of divorcement, by saying that if your heart is soft towards the Lord, you will not avail yourself of that provision in your own life.

I don't see any contradiction here.

I'm not certain why you want to see a contradiction here.
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Old 08-11-2021, 12:40 PM
 
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No matter what, the law was indeed changed before Jesus arrived, and Jesus literally fulfilled the changes made, but I am not speaking of Moses, but Ezekiel.

Ezekiel changed the law, Jesus followed in those changes, the one reason Jesus broke out a whip over the money changers in the court, he was angry because of the new laws Ezekiel made, but were not followed.
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Old 08-11-2021, 10:27 PM
 
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There was actually a change in the law as a direct result of the priesthood being changed when Jesus became a High Priest after the order of Melchizedec. For our Lord sprang out of Judah; and the priesthood was formerly of the tribe of Levi (see Hebrews 7:12 and context).

What did this change in law entail?

It changed from being about a set of do's and don'ts to having to do with virtues and vices (Galatians 5:16-24, Romans 8:1-9).
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Old 08-12-2021, 06:30 AM
 
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I'm sorry I don't see that. Where do you see Jesus saying that Moses changed what God originally said?

Moses gave the law; which pertains to government.

Jesus qualified Moses' statement, that he permitted people to write a bill of divorcement, by saying that if your heart is soft towards the Lord, you will not avail yourself of that provision in your own life.

I don't see any contradiction here.

I'm not certain why you want to see a contradiction here.
You are not seeing because you do not want to see, BUT FROM THE BEGINNING IT WAS NOT SO, should have informed you but it did not.
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Old 08-12-2021, 01:05 PM
 
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You are not seeing because you do not want to see, BUT FROM THE BEGINNING IT WAS NOT SO, should have informed you but it did not.
Jesus is saying that from the beginning, marriage was intended to be faithful between a man and a woman.

Moses gave the law; and the law has to do with government.

As concerning the law fo the land, Moses permitted people to write a bill of divorcement; because of the hardness of men's hearts.

Jesus taught us that if your heart is soft, you will not avail yourself of that provision in government.

There is no contradiction here; and no change in law.

The law, given by Moses, allowed for divorce.

God's standard of conduct for the believer is slightly different than the law.

It says that if your heart is soft towards Him, you will not divorce your wife.
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