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Old 08-06-2021, 04:42 PM
 
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And Charlie substantiated JBF writings
That is what happens on all “sides” though
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Old 08-06-2021, 09:00 PM
 
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Default The Holy Bible...the word of God?

The Bible tells us about the Word of God, Jesus Christ, and it contains the word of God, but it is NOT the word of God nor is it Holy.
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Old 08-06-2021, 11:52 PM
 
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Only God's Holy Spirit of agape love as revealed and demonstrated unambiguously by Jesus can substantiate ANYTHING in the Bible! That is why the Comforter abides with us to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts." You ignore that Truth at your own peril believing the "precepts and doctrines of men" that you have been taught, IMO.
However, the way to receive "God's Holy Spirit of agape love" is not through eastern meditation; but through faith in Jesus Christ (Galatians 3:14).
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Old 08-06-2021, 11:53 PM
 
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The Bible tells us about the Word of God, Jesus Christ, and it contains the word of God, but it is NOT the word of God nor is it Holy.
The Holy Bible is the word of God.
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Old 08-07-2021, 02:19 AM
 
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The Holy Bible is the word of God.
It's the perceptions of men over time.
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Old 08-07-2021, 03:29 AM
 
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It's the perceptions of men over time.
Let's say Jerwade is a very rich man, has many properties and many servants to take care of everything.

He goes on a 6 month journey and leaves a letter for the servants with his instructions of things he wants done. He tells the servants the letter is in his study on his desk.

When he returns, nothing in the letter is done. He asks his servants why is nothing in the letter is done?

They tell him, we didn't believe you wrote that letter, so we ignored it!

What would Jerwade do about that?

Would you just forgive and forget, or throw out everyone of them and find new help?
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Old 08-07-2021, 06:40 AM
 
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It's the perceptions of men over time.
Those perceptions were divinely influenced by the Holy Spirit (2 Timothy 3:15-17, 2 Peter 1:20-21)..
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Old 08-07-2021, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Let's say Jerwade is a very rich man, has many properties and many servants to take care of everything.

He goes on a 6 month journey and leaves a letter for the servants with his instructions of things he wants done. He tells the servants the letter is in his study on his desk.

When he returns, nothing in the letter is done. He asks his servants why is nothing in the letter is done?

They tell him, we didn't believe you wrote that letter, so we ignored it!

What would Jerwade do about that?

Would you just forgive and forget, or throw out everyone of them and find new help?
I would not have left a letter (written by someone else) to begin with; and would have discussed things directly, so there would be no confusion. I would not have left instructions on a memo pad, sitting on a desk, hoping they might follow it. Those who know me, know what I want without asking or being told what to do.
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Old 08-07-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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Those perceptions were divinely influenced by the Holy Spirit (2 Timothy 3:15-17, 2 Peter 1:20-21)..
Influenced or inspired based on a feeling?
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Old 08-07-2021, 08:19 AM
 
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I didn't say that it only applies to them; I said that it specifically applied to Peter when he substantiated Paul in 2 Peter 3:15-16. Who substantiated the rest of the Bible in 2 Timothy 3:15-17.
There is a difference between the people who wrote the OT and those who wrote the NT. Those who wrote the OT only saw Gods hind part, Jesus gave us a full frontal. lol
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