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Characterizing it as your desire was presumptuous and I apologize. Sadly, I do not believe you do understand the relationships given your focus on the physical. I am just incapable of relating to the belief in a physical resurrection. That would be hell, IMO. Fortunately, science relegates it to the highly improbable if not impossible category!
There are many more layers than we are able to comprehend mystic
Why do you seek to put names on it that have confusing existing definitions involving nonsense like venial and mortal sins. It is what it is. No name required! And it is all that exists, no eternal Hell nonsense either.
Because that's what purgatory is. You may not use the name, but that's what it is.
Why do you seek to put names on it that have confusing existing definitions involving nonsense like venial and mortal sins. It is what it is. No name required! And it is all that exists, no eternal Hell nonsense either.
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie
Because that's what purgatory is. You may not use the name, but that's what it is.
But the concept of purgatory contains other things that do not apply, like venial and mortal sins. It is just negative consequences that are correctional, proportionate, and restorative, none of which are unending.
What do you consider as purgatory? Is it not a process, rather than a place?
Of course not, you see it as Dante's inferno or a place of eternal suffering.
What do you consider as purgatory? Is it not a process, rather than a place?
Of course not, you see it as Dante's inferno or a place of eternal suffering.
Yes
The purgatory and eternal torment are about the same concepts being misapplied with people trying to combine/compare things that are just not comparable
The infinite with the finite, the mortal with the immortal, the individual with the corporate
What do you consider as purgatory? Is it not a process, rather than a place?
Of course not, you see it as Dante's inferno or a place of eternal suffering.
I dont even get where somebody came up with a purgatory, isnt that just a Carholic thing?
The bible explicitly affirms that God has blessed His Chosen people according to the truth He chose them to be holy and blameless before the foundation of the world, because in themselves they were not holy nor blameless. He also predestinated them, not according to their will, but according to the good pleasure of His Will, that it would be to the PRAISE of the GLORY of HIS GRACE minus their works, unconditionally. Eph 1:3-6
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
I dont even get where somebody came up with a purgatory, isnt that just a Carholic thing?
Catholics just put that name to it, what is shown in scripture.
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