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Old 03-02-2017, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Europe
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Ukrainian education and mentality are well-suited for the Russia. Ukrainians can get good money in Moscow, in the Crimea, etc.

In the EU, they will wash a toilets in most cases.
Mentality will change very fast after first salary 1000-1200 euro.
And many young ukrainians have european orientated mentality already.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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"When the changes take effect, the holders of biometric passports can travel to the EU for 90 days during the 180-day period for a business trip or a family vacation," - reported in the EP. It should be noted that the visa-free regime is not intended to obtain a work permit, and does not apply to UK and Ireland.
To get working permit is no problem in Poland or CzR.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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I read that no less than 5 million. Just some Ukrainians received the Russian citizenship.

+ For example, this summer I was had a rest in the Crimea. The masseuse was a Ukrainian, she came to the Crimea 10 years ago and now have Russian citizenship. The photographer was from Kharkov. Etc.

++ In Moscow, a lot of cars with Ukrainian numbers.
Its cheaper to fly to Turkey or Montenegro than in the Crimea. These were people with old habits.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Mentality will change very fast after first salary 1000-1200 euro.
And many young ukrainians have european orientated mentality already.
1000-1200 euro is the usual salary in Moscow.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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And many young ukrainians have european orientated mentality already.
As a many young Russians.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Mentality will change very fast after first salary 1000-1200 euro.
And many young ukrainians have european orientated mentality already.
And while they earn 40 euros) and there will be more in the coming years.
Or do you foresee inflation of the euro?
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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And while they earn 40 euros) and there will be more in the coming years.
Or do you foresee inflation of the euro?
They earn 200-300 euro on native land.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:36 PM
 
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As a many young Russians.
Then Russia will be associated member of EU.
After Putins death.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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Then Russia will be associated member of EU.
After Putins death.
No, thanks.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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I am Ukrainian and I am in contact with my family there so you could say I hear lots about what is happening on the ground.
Ukrainians hate Russians and have for centuries.There is no way there are any Russia-lovers in Ukraine. In WW2, when Nazis first arrived at Ukraine the people welcomed the Germans because they mistakenly believed the Germans would save them from Russia.
The country has struggled with occupation by Austria, Poland, Russia, Nazis, and others who divided it up for themselves over the course of hundreds of years. They were not a willing participant in the USSR but
succumbed to the Red Army and assault from the Communist Party and Soviet state on the Ukrainian peasantry, who resisted Soviet policies. In years 1931-1932 the Holodomor took place. An estimated
3 - 8 million Ukrainians died under Stalin's cruelty and starved to death. They were deliberately prevented from obtaining food. Their crops were confiscated, enforcers roamed villages looking for any secret food caches, and their borders were sealed so they could not emigrate to where there was food to be had.
Ukraine was set to become a member of the EU. Russia does not want Western influence on their doorstep. They want to take over the wealth of Ukraine's natural resources and agriculture and its strategic geographical location.
Ukraine's future is bleak. They cannot possibly win any military action against Russia.
Similar to Canada and USA, the huge neighbor. Canada could not resist alone. It would take the Commonwealth of Nations to enact a military response.
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