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Old 03-10-2014, 06:29 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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Why western Ukraine during the Soviet Union did not do anything to live better? As well as the Baltic republics and drugie. They did not want to work and live at the expense of Russia (RSFSR). You know what they said at the time about this? "It makes no sense to work better - frankly speaking former Chairman of the State Planning Committee of the Estonian SSR R. Otsason - but it makes more sense to be a letter of support. It is important to ask money, food, feed, products, whatever - it is more important than to be able to do them. "This parasitical ideology especially widely entered the minds of the leaders of the Baltic and Caucasus. "The fact is that over the last 45-50 years is Soviet Russia (RSFSR) was, literally, almost all donor Union and most autonomous republics.You live better than we do! It is not surprising that the Baltic countries and Ukraine and Georgia , already received a lot of agony in the period of the USSR, during the last 15 years, directly or indirectly impose financial claims against Russia, as successor to the USSR, - "for the damage during the Soviet occupation." And such accounts tens or even hundreds of billions, of course, dollars.But what is interesting: in July-August 2009 was discontinued funding of public commissions in the Baltic States to clarify the amount of their claims against the USSR, Russia. A very remarkable fact. Moreover , reported a number of Baltic media, some economists are of the same countries recently calculated that, it appears, in the socio-economic and foreign relations Baltic countries was far better to be in the Soviet Union and even ... in the Russian Empire (!) Than to be independent since 1990 !
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:44 AM
 
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I hope that war will not be...it needs nobody and will ruin all, if will begin.
About the European union: I much read and know that Europe uses other countries only. But Russia uses Ukraine also. And between slavonic people a long ago already there is much hatred, which will disappear not, but becomes only anymore...
Did not you think why are not Russians so loved in the world? Why people pay +30 percents for a hotel WITHOUT RUSSIANS?It is in fact . Putin divided Russia into 2 parts...
There is other Russia, but it is not seen from your government... Putin insulates Russia from the whole civilized world...Are not you terrible really? you all will suffer, and one man is guilty...

That is why if I must choose, I choose Europe. I understand that Europe will use Ukraine in the aims, and America will use also, but I do not want to live in Russia of Putin...
One person is all about? You educated man? If so then you would understand that Putin is the head of state and besides him there are many others. Russia is isolated from other countries? In what sense? me well enough to live in Russia. I have a good and profitable business in spite of my age. I was quite poor, but I finished 1 College and 2 University (two specialties I have diplomas and certificates specialist international level). In this country helped me. Whether it is possible for a poor student in the U.S. or Europe?
Why do not you learn and engage in lawful activities?

As for the Slavs, I do not see a problem in the relationship. In Russia in particular. Be good enough live here together with Ukrainians, Belarusians and many others. As for the Caucasian nationalities, then do not see any problems if these people behave like humans. Problems sometimes arise with Azerbaijanis.
We no longer have a visa between South Korea and we love this nation as well. To Slovaks and Serbs too good attitude, I do not see problems.



I agree with you, we do not need war. It's no good.I'll give the answer later, I have already night.

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Old 03-10-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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Why western Ukraine during the Soviet Union did not do anything to live better? As well as the Baltic republics and drugie. They did not want to work and live at the expense of Russia (RSFSR). You know what they said at the time about this? "It makes no sense to work better - frankly speaking former Chairman of the State Planning Committee of the Estonian SSR R. Otsason - but it makes more sense to be a letter of support. It is important to ask money, food, feed, products, whatever - it is more important than to be able to do them. "This parasitical ideology especially widely entered the minds of the leaders of the Baltic and Caucasus. "The fact is that over the last 45-50 years is Soviet Russia (RSFSR) was, literally, almost all donor Union and most autonomous republics.You live better than we do! It is not surprising that the Baltic countries and Ukraine and Georgia , already received a lot of agony in the period of the USSR, during the last 15 years, directly or indirectly impose financial claims against Russia, as successor to the USSR, - "for the damage during the Soviet occupation." And such accounts tens or even hundreds of billions, of course, dollars.But what is interesting: in July-August 2009 was discontinued funding of public commissions in the Baltic States to clarify the amount of their claims against the USSR, Russia. A very remarkable fact. Moreover , reported a number of Baltic media, some economists are of the same countries recently calculated that, it appears, in the socio-economic and foreign relations Baltic countries was far better to be in the Soviet Union and even ... in the Russian Empire (!) Than to be independent since 1990 !
Do you know that surprises me?
Ukraine - 46 million people live, and 603 000 the area of earth
Russia- 140 million people lives, and 17 000 000 area of earth.
Is there how many earth in Siberia? Is there how many earth after the mountains of Ural, which empty?Why do not you use it? Is it really possible to talk about development, when is the third part of earth of Russia empty?
And you need little Ossetia, Abhazia, Crimea... If you were engaged in effectively the earth, you would be a number 1 in the world...

And your government so badly uses the potential and always wants to get stranger earth, where all is already. Did not you think about it?
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:57 AM
 
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Do you know that surprises me?
Ukraine - 46 million people live, and 603 000 the area of earth
Russia- 140 million people lives, and 17 000 000 area of earth.
Is there how many earth in Siberia? Is there how many earth after the mountains of Ural, which empty?Why do not you use it? Is it really possible to talk about development, when is the third part of earth of Russia empty?
And you need little Ossetia, Abhazia, Crimea... If you were engaged in effectively the earth, you would be a number 1 in the world...

And your government so badly uses the potential and always wants to get stranger earth, where all is already. Did not you think about it?
You Naive that you think that people live only to the Urals. What do you think, where I live? Throughout the territory of the Russian ie 83 regions have many towns and villages. In particular, in Siberia.
Why do not you mastered these lands before? Were you afraid of the cold and hardship, is not it. You enjoy the warmth! Why is your country called Ukraine? have you thought about this? That means you people who live at the edge of Russia
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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One person is all about? You educated man? If so then you would understand that Putin is the head of state and besides him there are many others. Russia is isolated from other countries? In what sense? me well enough to live in Russia. I have a good and profitable business in spite of my age. I was quite poor, but I finished 1 College and 2 University (two specialties I have diplomas and certificates specialist international level). In this country helped me. Whether it is possible for a poor student in the U.S. or Europe?
Why do not you learn and engage in lawful activities?

As for the Slavs, I do not see a problem in the relationship. In Russia in particular. Be good enough live here together with Ukrainians, Belarusians and many others. As for the Caucasian nationalities, then do not see any problems if these people behave like humans. Problems sometimes arise with Azerbaijanis.
We no longer have a visa between South Korea and we love this nation as well. To Slovaks and Serbs too good attitude, I do not see problems.



I agree with you, we do not need war. It's no good.I'll give the answer later, I have already night.
I also live normally...I have work and apartment, but it can be better.
Integration is needed to Europe, an exchange is needed by information et al...
How can you live in Russia, if even television set, internet, and newspapers tell lies you? I hope, what I will read only in the book of George Orwell
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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You Naive that you think that people live only to the Urals. What do you think, where I live? Throughout the territory of the Russian ie 83 regions have many towns and villages. In particular, in Siberia.
I know. But for you too little people are for your territory...
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:04 AM
 
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I also live normally...I have work and apartment, but it can be better.
Integration is needed to Europe, an exchange is needed by information et al...
How can you live in Russia, if even television set, internet, and newspapers tell lies you? I hope, what I will read only in the book of George Orwell
Do you think Europe and the West is not lying? In this they have no equal!
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:10 AM
 
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I know. But for you too little people are for your territory...
It says that we have the potential to last longer in the world. For this reason, the United States and Europe tried to control the whole history of Russia! What is happening today in Ukraine directly relates to this. Until, tomorrow! I can quote the words of Margaret Thatcher, if you want about it. Bye!
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:18 AM
 
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Aksenov is the legitimate government, which was appointed as the legitimate government Yakunovicha. Yakunochich a legitimate government. Unlike those terrorists.
You better check your facts, comrade. Armed Russian troops took control of Crimean parliament, a small group of parliament members installed Aksenov as a governor. We know nothing about how that "voting" under barrel of a gun was done or if there was any "voting" at all. At first, Russian troops could not herd enough of the Crimean parliament members to make any decisions.

As for legitimacy of Yanukovich, the guy fled his office for no legitimate reason, fled his responsibilities when he was needed the most. I bet it was done not without a Russian "advice". Legitimate Ukrainian Parliament voted for Ukraine to become a Parliament Republic it was prior to 2004. As such, a speaker of Parliament (not President) is a supreme leader of nation. You question legitimacy of Ukrainian parliament too? Considering Goebbels like propaganda Russia drowns itself with, I wouldn't be surprised.

Tell me, comrade, what happened to Russia? You worship soviet victory in WWII, and yet you became a fascist state (see the definitions of fascism before objecting), you got your own Duce - Putin (nascent cult of personality is obvious for a foreign eye), you copied Goebbels propaganda and mixed that with Soviet relics, you couldn't even come up with your own invasion scenario and copied that from Hitler, Russian chauvinism and xenophobia reached obscene levels, it's seem everybody out there is to get Mother Russia, many of the Russians are crazy to the point of being willing to unleash nuclear war over "legitimate" right of Russia to grab whatever lands it feels like it at the time. There is something going on with you all, as an insider please enlighten us.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:01 AM
 
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A couple days ago a United States ship was sent into the Black via the Hellespont. Not sure where it is but apparently it is in there. I didnt know about NATO being there. I believe I read that they had a few planes in the Baltic states.
The US ship is there for routine exercises, part of NATO trianing which revolves around multi-country coordination during at sea operations. Routine, nothing special about it, and not going to cancel it over what really is a trivial issue over Crimea.
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