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I personally think that if the west wins this the Ukrainian people will lose. The IMF and other money lenders are involved and we all know what they did to Greece. The people will be slaves. I don't know what will happen if Russia wins, I imagine it will be as before and the people will gain little.
There's already measures being taken to cut the elderly peoples pensions and hike the price of gas almost double.
I personally think that if the west wins this the Ukrainian people will lose. The IMF and other money lenders are involved and we all know what they did to Greece. The people will be slaves. I don't know what will happen if Russia wins, I imagine it will be as before and the people will gain little.
There's already measures being taken to cut the elderly peoples pensions and hike the price of gas almost double.
This isn't over yet.
I've read quite interesting comment on this subject of one of the readers here;
"One of the first things out of Yatsenyuk's mouth upon taking the premiership was to declare his task "political kamikaze". This was a message directly to the power elite in Washington and Berlin and it was an admission of weakness. He's sure he doesn't have the political authority amongst the population to institute the level of austerity that is being demanded of him. Enter Svoboda, Right Sector, et al. He's suggesting that what he can't force upon the people with speeches these other groups may have to do with violence "
"Yatsenyuk is plenty nervous about putting these neo-fascists in positions of authority(National Defense and Security Council) and then letting them fully take the reigns if and when the bite of austerity takes hold and he starts to lose control."
I personally think that if the west wins this the Ukrainian people will lose. The IMF and other money lenders are involved and we all know what they did to Greece. The people will be slaves. I don't know what will happen if Russia wins, I imagine it will be as before and the people will gain little.
There's already measures being taken to cut the elderly peoples pensions and hike the price of gas almost double.
This isn't over yet.
What does it mean to win the West or Russia? What is this victory?
In fact, it's simple. Causes - In Crimea, the Black Sea Fleet is, in the face of the US, NATO wants to remove it and create your base sideways beneath the Russian borders. For Russia, this is a national security issue, plus there most of the population is Russian, which gave Khrushchev (to justify himself in front of Ukraine, as he himself Ukraine) Yeltsin later betrayed them, not returning back to the Crimea to Russia ( all data Crimea wanted to be part of Russia again). These are the main reasons.
As for the whole of Ukraine-Russia has many years risen them from the pit. Each year, only for gas Russia has lost $ 5 billion (this is only to to help Ukraine).
For Ukraine there was only one future to be with Russia. And the two friend are Russia and Belarus.
Be with Russia it means to have a future.
As for the West, the United States is regulated only by their own interests. Ukraine's interests for them does not matter, including sovereignty. They lose it as well as the Balkans.
For the EU, it is a big burden. EU will not give money to Ukraine in the right quantity. I do not think that EU taxpayers will like it - to feed another country.
As for western Ukraine is a very naive people who think that they want to see in the EU and they will thrive. So before thinking Greece, Latvia, Spain, Romania, but no bright future to this day.
For Ukraine there was only one future to be with Russia. And the two friend are Russia and Belarus. Be with Russia it means to have a future.
As for the West, the United States is regulated only by their own interests. Ukraine's interests for them does not matter, including sovereignty. They lose it as well as the Balkans.
For the EU, it is a big burden. EU will not give money to Ukraine in the right quantity. I do not think that EU taxpayers will like it - to feed another country.
As for western Ukraine is a very naive people who think that they want to see in the EU and they will thrive. So before thinking Greece, Latvia, Spain, Romania, but no bright future to this day.
The only future for Ukraine is with Russia, what? You sicken me!
As for all those countries you listed, ask any national of Greece, Latvia, Spain or Romania if they would rather prefer ANY association with Russia.
"Yatsenyuk is plenty nervous about putting these neo-fascists in positions of authority(National Defense and Security Council) and then letting them fully take the reigns if and when the bite of austerity takes hold and he starts to lose control
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Yes I'd go witht he fact that Mr. Yatsenyuk has big problem there and must be addressed. I don't know how good a politician he is but he does a very diffilcult job because Putin is throwing alot of sawdust his way. We will see how this will play out. Putin surely does not want that 'government' in Kiev to rest and get its balance. The more the chaos the more he believes he can get the upper hand in determining the future of a Ukraine alongside him.
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As for western Ukraine is a very naive people who think that they want to see in the EU and they will thrive. So before thinking Greece, Latvia, Spain, Romania, but no bright future to this day.
The perhaps Putin should let the 'naive' people if they want to look West. If anything the Russian pharoah should be magnanimous in their leaving. And as for 'naivete', frankly the Russian people themselves are being played for all its worth right now. If future sanctions continue on their merry way there will be a price to be paid for Putin's travels into the Crimea. The Russian people ultimately will be the ones to suffer the hardships. Even the oligarchs and their 'cozy' liefstyle will lament living in Russia.
Hi, everybody: )
Today in my head everything developed finally...
I understood that I was spoken earlier by my friends and acquaintances...
Ukraine long ago divided, and all parties know it (except the Ukrainian people). It is anti-recessionary management of Europe - to get rid of all subsidized regions of Ukraine (the South and the East). Only then Ukraine will obtain the credits and will begin to develop.
And about Putin is a big plan of the USA for elimination of Russia... Putin will take away the Crimea and the East of Ukraine, every day he spends a lot of money for it... These are economically bad regions, Russia will be doomed to pay them always: ) In some years the economy of Russia of it won't sustain, and Russia will break up to many parts...
The part will take away the Caucasus, part - China, the part remains...
The American psychologists use Putin's weakness against him...
And Ukraine (not including the South and the East) will be a colony of Europe... and I think it for us good option: )
The only future for Ukraine is with Russia, what? You sicken me!
As for all those countries you listed, ask any national of Greece, Latvia, Spain or Romania if they would rather prefer ANY association with Russia.
then the relationship with Russia. Ukraine, Russia and Belarus are the countries which were always together in all respects. Ukraine for them a foreign country. you better ask them how they have a golden future in ES . which so long dreaming Western Ukraine.
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