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Old 03-21-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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All they are doing is continue recycling the notion of Ukrainian nationalism post after post, without any reference about why this conflict came into being in the first place.
And that from the looks of it the crux of all this, i.e. 'nationalism'. It's pretty evident that Russia sure looks at the word differently than Ukraine. Question is which will be the one to blast open the gates on this problem? Ukrainian nationalism or Putin's concept of of protecting 'ethnic Russia', of course. and as he's chained himself to the mast on his, WHEREVER they may be. That should keep the EU and the US busy with worry. Valid I think.

Whole different football match now folks. So on that sport motif, Putin's scored a goal already with linesmen missing a blatant off-side call. Russia 1 EU/US zilch, zippo, nil, none, zero, trying to get back into the match.
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Old 03-21-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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I don't know about you all, but I suddenly have a bad feeling - all those events from last autumn on have been going from bad to worse and it seems there is no one on either side to try and calm down the "game"-. It seems to me that a lot of people for a score of different reasons are eager at confrontation, and calm and reasonable voices get lost in the general turmoil. I'm not of a pessimistic nature, but if this goes on .... who knows how it will end ?
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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With this post, you only confirm what I said before.
You can say what you want. This is your opinion.

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Old 03-21-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Waiting for sanctions.

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Old 03-21-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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And that from the looks of it the crux of all this, i.e. 'nationalism'. It's pretty evident that Russia sure looks at the word differently than Ukraine. Question is which will be the one to blast open the gates on this problem? Ukrainian nationalism or Putin's concept of of protecting 'ethnic Russia', of course. and as he's chained himself to the mast on his, WHEREVER they may be. That should keep the EU and the US busy with worry. Valid I think.

Whole different football match now folks. So on that sport motif, Putin's scored a goal already with linesmen missing a blatant off-side call. Russia 1 EU/US zilch, zippo, nil, none, zero, trying to get back into the match.
To throw accusations toward Russia. We need to start from the beginning of the conflict. How it started, who started it and why? Interesting, but Russia this time not on the field in the game. It will appear much later in contrast to the nationalists and the United States.
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:50 AM
 
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We need to start from the beginning of the conflict. How it started, who started it and why?

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Old 03-21-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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the imaginary heroes of Ukraine.That their children today seized power in Ukraine and you're proud of?
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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who thinks and when did it start? Have an opinion ladies and gentlemen?
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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who thinks and when did it start? Have an opinion ladies and gentlemen?
Well, you already stated your take on things in your previous post (post #2088).

That's OK. Nobody expects much from you, anyway.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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Many will be surprised but it is 2001.What happened this year, which reflects these events today?
what is common in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria ,Libya and Ukraine?

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