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Old 08-11-2017, 02:44 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Not true, in all Slavic language probably no one uses slovOni lol or whatever but slaviani. Only Poles and Ukrainians are 100% Slavic though.
In general, he is right. Linguists prove that Slavs are those who are able to understand words (слова). Transition in the Slavs (from the word слава/glory) is a later phenomenon.
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:39 AM
 
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^ In Bulgarian at least the words are "slavianin" and "slaviani", not "slOvianin". Also in Russian sometimes "o" is "a", probably in Ukrainian too idk.
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:51 AM
 
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^ In Bulgarian at least the words are "slavianin" and "slaviani", not "slOvianin". Also in Russian sometimes "o" is "a", probably in Ukrainian too idk.
In Russian is also only "a" ("slavianin" and "slaviani"). Use "o" is an old, not preserved form of the word at the present time. Exceptions is name of states "Slovakia" and "Slovenia" (and its inhabitants).
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:49 AM
 
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Yes, I wasn't hinting that in Russian they mistake the o for a in Slava/Slovo, I'm aware there are only cases wher a is o. Such as mojnA, hAchu, Adin, etc.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Yes, I wasn't hinting that in Russian they mistake the o for a in Slava/Slovo, I'm aware there are only cases wher a is o. Such as mojnA, hAchu, Adin, etc.
This is typical for Russian (as for English, probably). Writing is late for a change speech.
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Old 08-13-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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The West is apparently dealing with some interesting individuals over in Ukraine. Have a look at this guys shoulder patch.



It's the unit insignia of the famous Dirlewanger Brigade. AKA 36th Waffen SS Divizion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/36th_W...sion_of_the_SS
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:09 PM
 
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Scrat... Of course the *West* is very much aware of what kind of people stood behind the "Ukrainian Revolution."
The Guardian was writing about it, German ZDF was showing it on TV,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0vbGj9cO4

and of course they were aware in Washington, that it were the paramilitary units that were fighting on the streets, throwing Molotov's cocktails and murdering the police.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TpZa4OMFVk&t=351s

It's just people like Dana Rohrabacher (who understand it all I assume) can't do much about the situation.
And that's how this whole coup d' etat in Ukraine is propagandized in Western media as "Freedom and democracy" and "babushkas with flowers," while Russians are demonized for the support of their own in the new, nationalist Ukraine.
But we know what's going on there behind the scene and who rules the streets, because we hear from Ukrainians on FB, we see the videos. And a lot of these people quietly condemn Putin for his betrayal, basically...

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Old 08-14-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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Ukraine suspected as source of North Korea's advanced missile technology

North Korea’s Missile Success Is Linked to Ukrainian Plant, Investigators Say

The coup in Ukraine has resulted in their missile supplier to see other business after Russia severed business ties with Ukraine.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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Your link came up as not found Ichi. I did read something about it last night and the rocket motors in question have only a single chamber. Yushmash in the Ukraine is the only company that made single chamber motors. Russia other builder only made multi chamber motors. If you think critically about it why doesn't the Russian company make single chamber motors too? How old were the motors? From some warehouse produced years ago?

This whole thing smells bad. They could have come from a number of sources not necessarily Ukraine.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Here's some more. Russia used the RD250 motor until 2006 on commercial rockets. In 2006 they stopped using them because they were considered obsolete. There's speculation about these engines sitting in warehouse in Ukraine, Khazhakstan and Russia.

Do you know what's in your attic? I seriously doubt the parties mentioned above do.
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