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Old 03-30-2020, 01:48 PM
 
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I watched/read about the same conclusions (maybe even you posted these videos before). I think that a country cannot have a stable strong economy when its industry burns down in a civil war. I am skeptical about the strength of the hryvnia and do not rule out financial default in the coming months.

They talk about it back and forth now, in the light of upcoming 17 bil. payment on loans to the IMF that they owe.

For Ukraine, in current situation they are in, it's a killer.

I don't remember all the details, and how they are going to wiggle out of all this, as much as Zelensky is trying to avoid the default.

But I am going through the latest news from both places ( Ua and Ru now..)
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Old 03-30-2020, 02:16 PM
 
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P.S. Speaking of the devil.
Visibly tired and shaken Zelensky is asking Parliament yet again to push through fast "land reforms" in order to get more and more loans from IMF.

The opposition is warning him that the new laws he is trying to speedy push through, are going directly against Ukrainian constitution, and with Ukrainian lands going to foreign owners, this turns Ukraine officially into colony, yet another "banana republic."




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd54Xm7ryso
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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Because Ukraine is not involved in economic wars.
Nonsense - Ukraine is under "sanctions" from Russia and is at war against Russia, but nevertheless, the Ukrainian economy is showing greater success than the Russian economy.
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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Not only Maxim.
When I was listening to Dubinsky

Dubinsky is under investigation in a US court, he was issued an arrest warrant. Or is it again the bad Democrats who trump Trump?

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Ukrainian lands going to foreign owners, this turns Ukraine officially into colony, yet another "banana republic."
Have you noticed that you came from a banana republic and live in another banana republic?
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Old 03-30-2020, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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I am skeptical about the strength of the hryvnia and do not rule out financial default in the coming months.
And who are you? Do you Expert? Economist? Financier? Your Russian 'experts' predicted default in 2014, and since then the ruble has fallen three times
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Old 03-30-2020, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Nonsense - Ukraine is under "sanctions" from Russia and is at war against Russia, but nevertheless, the Ukrainian economy is showing greater success than the Russian economy.

What success?
Millions of Ukrainians (who are ''at war against Russia'') work in Russia to feed their families.
Every year those Ukrainian workers bring to the Ukrainian economics much more money than any IMF loan. And Russian economics still worse than Ukrainian? A-ha-ha-ha.
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Old 03-30-2020, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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What success?
Millions of Ukrainians (who are ''at war against Russia'') work in Russia to feed their families.
false - after the announcement of quarantine in Russia, more Russian migrant workers left Ukraine more than Ukrainians returned from Russia.

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Every year those Ukrainian workers bring to the Ukrainian economics much more money than any IMF loan. And Russian economics still worse than Ukrainian? A-ha-ha-ha.
Yes, but not from the impoverished, collapsing Russia, but from Europe. hahaha
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Old 03-30-2020, 11:35 PM
 
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false - after the announcement of quarantine in Russia, more Russian migrant workers left Ukraine more than Ukrainians returned from Russia.


Yes, but not from the impoverished, collapsing Russia, but from Europe. hahaha

It's so sad that many Ukrainians are mentally blind and trusting their fantasies.
They still don't realize what's going on in their own country but keep pointing their broken finger to the country that could help them. Mass madness at its best.
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Old 03-30-2020, 11:56 PM
 
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Dubinsky is under investigation in a US court, he was issued an arrest warrant. Or is it again the bad Democrats who trump Trump?


Have you noticed that you came from a banana republic and live in another banana republic?




Dubinsky is "under investigation in a US court" in your loony bin, where you belong to.

Just because yet another Jewish magnate from Ukraine, (having ties to Firtash) feels very uncomfortable with Dubinsky's investigation, and decided to pull him to American court, accusing D. of "slander" or what's not he-he, doesn't mean D. is guilty of anything, except for his desire to put Poroshenko behind bars for all his crimes.

And *someone, somewhere* is very, very protective of Poroshenko. ( I wonder who and why, another he-he.)

And that's where all these *investigations* of Dubinsky are coming from.



P.S. The irony of it all, is that Dubinsky is actually VERY anti-Russian, and makes no secret out of it.

Yet he still manages to get your panties in a bunch.


With other words, crawl back to your loony bin Wadym)))
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Old 03-31-2020, 10:12 AM
 
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I also read this thread from time to time. ... And I often get the impression that Ukraina is mentally now quite emancipated from Russia. Ukrainian authorities now seem to have a certitude that they now have a "buckwheat of their own".
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