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Old 03-01-2020, 05:06 PM
 
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From 1:45 then 2:46.
This is the ONLY language this Ukrainian-speaking mooing "activists" understand.
(Explanations behind the scene; the a-holes are spraying the distributed news-papers with some crap/damaging them.)


But that's EASTERN Ukraine, and Sharij and his people are doing a good job. The a*holes attacked the undercover cop (invited for these events in advance,) thinking they attacked some civilians, distributing the political material that Ukrainian-speaking *activists* happened to dislike.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEyOfY2Nl_U


But in WESTERN Ukraine the police is covering these *activists* up, so they keep on ruling the streets.



However something is happening in Ukraine already; as the rumor has it, Zelensky is trying to get rid of "his man" ( supposedly) - current Prosecutor General Ryaboshapka, head of the anti-corruption bureau A. Sitnik and ( what it looks like) Prime-minister Goncharuk.

At least two of them have ties to IMF/US.
The rest remains to be seen.

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Old 03-01-2020, 08:35 PM
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Sorry, but free-market capitalism in a democratic framework is the only way to deliver prosperity.
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Old 03-01-2020, 08:40 PM
 
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Sorry, but free-market capitalism in a democratic framework is the only way to deliver prosperity.

Sorry but not in colonies, that Ukraine is.
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:36 PM
 
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Wonder what this is about.

https://tass.com/world/1126317

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Sorry, but free-market capitalism in a democratic framework is the only way to deliver prosperity.
Be nice to have either of them here in the west wouldn't it?
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Old 03-03-2020, 08:52 PM
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Wonder what this is about.

https://tass.com/world/1126317
Because Ukraine is signalling it might abandon the Donbas to Russian control. This doesn't allow Russia to use it as destabilization tool anymore (bad for Russia). Ukraine is not obligated to continue sending money and resources to a Russian controlled area that keeps attacking them. Throw up a wall, end the checkpoints and its not their problem anymore.

I think Putin has bigger problems though.
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Old 03-04-2020, 09:24 AM
 
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Because Ukraine is signalling it might abandon the Donbas to Russian control. This doesn't allow Russia to use it as destabilization tool anymore (bad for Russia). Ukraine is not obligated to continue sending money and resources to a Russian controlled area that keeps attacking them. Throw up a wall, end the checkpoints and its not their problem anymore.

I think Putin has bigger problems though.
That was a link to the wrong article. I was wondering about why the Ukie PM resigned.

https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-prime-...ime/a-52628402

Keep your nonsense to yourself otherwise.
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Old 03-04-2020, 11:41 AM
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Well I responded to your link, and that's exactly why Lavrov said it. Its not nonsense, the head of the state security service shared ideas to cut off Donbas and that's what Lavrov was responding to. Facts still matter.

The PM resigned because that's how democracy works in Europe, they are accountable and changed out when its needed. No more of this scheming and bribing your way into power so you can sell access to government $$. That's why Russia isn't make a big deal out of it on their news (which I watch). They don't want Russians to understand you can toss people out of power if you don't like their job performance.
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Old 03-04-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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Well I responded to your link, and that's exactly why Lavrov said it. Its not nonsense, the head of the state security service shared ideas to cut off Donbas and that's what Lavrov was responding to. Facts still matter.

The PM resigned because that's how democracy works in Europe, they are accountable and changed out when its needed. No more of this scheming and bribing your way into power so you can sell access to government $$. That's why Russia isn't make a big deal out of it on their news (which I watch). They don't want Russians to understand you can toss people out of power if you don't like their job performance.
I heard he made a statement that Zelensky doesn't know anything about economics. He voiced an opinion and was sacked for it?

That's democracy?

And yes, the Kiev junta just needs to accept the fact that they have lost the Donbas, forever. Unless the people of Donbas end up in Kiev which is entirely possible.

As for your reading comprehension, you need to work on it.

This is part of what Lavrov said in the article.

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Responding to a statement by his Finnish counterpart Pekka Haavisto about the situation in Donbass, Lavrov stressed that humanitarian crisis in eastern Ukraine emerged after the decisions made by former Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko to impose a blockade on the territory not controlled by Kiev, while the incumbent Ukrainian authorities are not doing anything to change the situation.
None of it has anything to do with your comment.
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Old 03-04-2020, 04:42 PM
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He voiced an opinion and was sacked for it?
That's your speculation. There were several problems the PM failed to address.

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And yes, the Kiev junta just needs to accept the fact that they have lost the Donbas, forever. Unless the people of Donbas end up in Kiev which is entirely possible.
They've ended up in a lot of places, Kyiv being the number 1 destination. Poland and Russia too. its not correct to call a freely elected government a "junta" btw.

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As for your reading comprehension, you need to work on it.

This is part of what Lavrov said in the article.

None of it has anything to do with your comment.
Lavrov isn't there to discuss what is real and what is not. His job is to signal. He wants Europe to know that if Ukraine walls off Russian controlled Donbas that its not Russia's fault when the place goes bankrupt.
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Old 03-04-2020, 05:25 PM
 
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That's your speculation. There were several problems the PM failed to address.
Oh really please enlighten me.



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They've ended up in a lot of places, Kyiv being the number 1 destination.
That's not what I'm talking about.


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its not correct to call a freely elected government a "junta" btw.
Comedy gold.



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Lavrov isn't there to discuss what is real and what is not. His job is to signal. He wants Europe to know that if Ukraine walls off Russian controlled Donbas that its not Russia's fault when the place goes bankrupt.
Too bad Ukraine can't afford a wall. Let alone a shovel and an axe to build it.
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