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Oh yes an apartment had a gas explosion. Must be because Ukraine is pursuing euro-atlanticism. If only Russia was their partner then these would stop occurring.
It looks like with Russian partnership this problem was not as bad as it is during "pursued "euro-atlanticism."
Because safety measures were better back then.
Presently, when these "independent from Russia" gas companies charge the consumers some outrageous prices, they refuse to take responsibility for gas meters and timely repairs. (It's all about "privatization" and "profits" now.)
And this brings gas explosions in apartment buildings.
In the light of this latest explosion in Kiev, they had a segment (between 25-32) in this "Pulse" show.
The footage from different cities where gas explosions took place, and statistics for killed/wounded people within the last few years.
Particularly when people call the repair services, complaining about the gas smell ( as it was before the last explosion) and they hear the answers like "no it should be all right" or "just open the window."
And talking about the "construction business" ( which is extremely profitable in terms of bribes alone,) and your "construction zone" - yes, they talk about that too.
About the immense corruption in that area and how many apartments that should be set aside for such victims, or low-income people, are sold by mayors and other government officials for their own profits.
Going back to gas though ( and part of it IS a discussion of the latest released tapes) - so when Americans and "euro-Atlanticism" took over Ukraine, and "energy independence from Russia" was all the rage, the very same Russian gas now was transported to Slovakia, and this so-called "European gas" was sold to Ukrainians for enormous price by some intermediary companies, which nobody can tell whom exactly they belonged to, and WHO exactly was getting all these profits.
In order to figure that out, ( among other things) Rada has to open criminal investigation into Poroshenko's case, but the US (& Friends) are vehemently against it, since "it might interfere with internal US affairs."
Earlier Arseniy Yatzenuk ( referred to as "Yatz" by Nuland in her infamous "F** the EU" tape, and hand-picked by Americans for the new government,) was ordered "not to be touched" by Biden, when Yatzenuk was afraid to prosecuted by law in Ukraine, and Poroshenko was saying "no problem" in latest released tapes.
So yeah.. all this "euro-atlanticism" is much more devastating to Ukrainians than their "dependency on Russia."
They aren't going to want to go back to Russia over Europe though. This is just an impossibility. You're clinging to such a bizarre idea, it shows you don't know anything about reality in Ukraine. A partnership with Russia is only possible under 2 scenarios:
1. Russia adopts democracy and stops attacking Ukraine, pays for Crimea, adopts European standards of government etc. (this will eventually happen I hope)
2. Ukraine is taken over by force and no longer practices democracy.
They aren't going to want to go back to Russia over Europe though. This is just an impossibility. You're clinging to such a bizarre idea, it shows you don't know anything about reality in Ukraine.
"Europe" doesn't want Ukraine; ( other than its cheap labor.)
Ukraine is too poor - EU already has Bulgaria and Romania for that.
So it's all fairy-tales, that US keep on feeding Ukrainians, while they are running away from their country now right and left.
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A partnership with Russia is only possible under 2 scenarios:
1. Russia adopts democracy and stops attacking Ukraine, pays for Crimea, adopts European standards of government etc. (this will eventually happen I hope)
2. Ukraine is taken over by force and no longer practices democracy.
Be careful what you wish for, DKM, because Russia can "adopt democracy" only when... when the US is out of power, when it stops claiming its "exceptionalism," and completely drops any claim to rule the world.
With other words, when it's going down for real.
Only THEN can Russians feel safe, not threatened by the Ukraine-like scenario ( which they already experienced back in the 90ies,) only then can they sort out their internal problems.
Only under this order of things, and not any other way.
That's what this "Rubik's cube" is telling me.
Because, even if Ukrainians would be able to wiggle out of American colonization and claim the "neutral status," I don't believe Putin would set them free, and that he wouldn't twist their arm ( the way he twists Lukashenko's arm.)
So I don't see how "Ukraine" in its current shape and form, as undivided "state" can stand on its own.
Unless of course...
Unless something will change in "Europe" itself, (following this current eroding trend in US/EU relations.)
But I will keep this one more guess/possible scenario to myself for now.
"Europe" doesn't want Ukraine; ( other than its cheap labor.)
Ukraine is too poor - EU already has Bulgaria and Romania for that.
The evidence suggests otherwise. You clearly lack understanding of why the EU began the EE association program. Europe would not bother investing billions in Ukraine if they didn't care about continuing this association which only really began 3 years ago. And Putin thought Russia was more important than Ukraine so they would back down and let him re-orient it to Russian control. This is what bothers you, that Europe would like to continue further political and economic association with Ukraine to the point of detrimental relations with Russia.
The evidence suggests otherwise. You clearly lack understanding of why the EU began the EE association program. Europe would not bother investing billions in Ukraine if they didn't care about continuing this association which only really began 3 years ago.
DKM...
The curator of Ukraine is Joe Biden, ( not Merkel or Macron.)
And it's American military base that has been built near Odessa as soon as.
AND Monica Zelensky already acknowledged during that fateful Trump's telephone call that France and Germany don't give a hoot about his "important for Europe country.")
THAT'S what the "evidence suggests" - who is REALLY behind the push for Ukraine to be cut off from Russia and to be inserted into EU.
That, and Poland that would like to increase its clout in EU ( not to mention that it's the major watchdog of American interests in EU.)
So "clear lack of understanding" what's going on there is on you DKM
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And Putin thought Russia was more important than Ukraine so they would back down and let him re-orient it to Russian control.
"They" who?
Of course Russia is more important for Germany and France ( add Italy there) from economic point of view than "Ukraine."
But not for Poland.
See, this is yet another major conflict of interests between "old" and "new" Europe ( read "Eastern Europe" in this case,) - the conflict that you keep on pretending is not there, because it doesn't serve your agenda well.
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This is what bothers you, that Europe would like to continue further political and economic association with Ukraine to the point of detrimental relations with Russia.
To be honest the only thing that bothers me at this point, is that US backs up the Nazi in Ukraine.
DKM...
The curator of Ukraine is Joe Biden, ( not Merkel or Macron.)
And it's American military base that has been built near Odessa as soon as.
AND Monica Zelensky already acknowledged during that fateful Trump's telephone call that France and Germany don't give a hoot about his "important for Europe country.")
THAT'S what the "evidence suggests" - who is REALLY behind the push for Ukraine to be cut off from Russia and to be inserted into EU.
That, and Poland that would like to increase its clout in EU ( not to mention that it's the major watchdog of American interests in EU.)
So "clear lack of understanding" what's going on there is on you DKM
"They" who?
Of course Russia is more important for Germany and France ( add Italy there) from economic point of view than "Ukraine."
But not for Poland.
See, this is yet another major conflict of interests between "old" and "new" Europe ( read "Eastern Europe" in this case,) - the conflict that you keep on pretending is not there, because it doesn't serve your agenda well.
To be honest the only thing that bothers me at this point, is that US backs up the Nazi in Ukraine.
But this is going to be taken care of as well.
Yet another murder attempt by the Nazi corps in Kharkov.
2:06 here.
This is the man who was leading the peaceful protest against the sitting government in Kiev few days ago.
He is in the ICU, in critical condition, after he wrote two complaints to police about the threats that he received from the National corps.
No arrests have been made so far.
I am reminding you yet again, that this is the government backed by the US - the government that is relying on protection of these Nazi dogs.
DKM...
The curator of Ukraine is Joe Biden, ( not Merkel or Macron.)
And it's American military base that has been built near Odessa as soon as.
AND Monica Zelensky already acknowledged during that fateful Trump's telephone call that France and Germany don't give a hoot about his "important for Europe country.")
I already read your propaganda "news" for years already. You are following their lead at diverting the attention from Europe's desires with Ukraine and trying to paint the EEP as an American project without a shred of evidence.
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THAT'S what the "evidence suggests" - who is REALLY behind the push for Ukraine to be cut off from Russia and to be inserted into EU.
Haha, you know who's REALLY behind the push for Ukraine to be cut off from Russia and to be inserted into EU: Ukrainians. Even Russian speaking southerners. And it makes you Russia lovers hysterical. Russia is such a failure of a way a country should be run that "brother" nations are fleeing from this model when they have the chance. It is what happens when people have a say in how their nation is run.
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Of course Russia is more important for Germany and France ( add Italy there) from economic point of view than "Ukraine."
But not for Poland.
See, this is yet another major conflict of interests between "old" and "new" Europe ( read "Eastern Europe" in this case,) - the conflict that you keep on pretending is not there, because it doesn't serve your agenda well.
You want it to be true that Poland is forcing the rest of Europe to choose Ukraine over Russia,but its simply not possible. Europe cares about values more than whatever the Russian market means to their bottom line. Pro-european democratic Ukraine is always going to be chosen over letting authoritarianism win on their border. Putin can whine, spin and stamp his feet all he wants on this, nothing will change because its a national security issue now.
Even today, a EU court ruled the EU sanctions against VTB bank are to be upheld. Europe imposed sanctions on the Russian state backed bank over Russia's activities in the Donbas. That simple truth is to be ignored and diverted from at all costs by Russian online warriors.
Go ahead and try to divert and spin away reality. I find it amusing.
DKM, it's already unimportant what you "find amusing."
What's important here, is that it becomes more and more evident that Dem. party supports the terrorist organization in Ukraine.
At least I don't see any ties going elsewhere but to Dem. Party and Biden in particular.
Zelensky is very afraid of Shaij, who keeps taking away HIS voter base. ( This too becomes more and more evident.)
With the upcoming election, Zelensky needs to suppress this trend - and that's the way he is trying to achieve it - unleashing the Nazi dogs, that are ready to kill.
Ukraine is curated by Biden, and the current government is backed by the US ( that's the reason the Nazi feel themselves protected no matter what they do.) And obviously, any attempt to investigate Ukrainian corruption ( now already under Zelensky) is met with fierce resistance from the US government, since "it might affect the US internal affairs.")
So the question here, is it just Dem party behind it all, ( well Soros affiliated with it obviously too, but I don't want to digress,) or the approval of Nazi in Ukraine has more unified support in US government overall?
That's what I am interested to learn at this point.
Europe cares about values more than whatever the Russian market means to their bottom line.
This is very true, not just Poland but the rest of eastern europe including my own country and a huge % of western europe put moral values above anything including even money. But you can't explain this to the Eurasian clique, in their view rubbles and corruption are more important...
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