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4) What if the Donetsk and Luhansk people really want to leave but Mariupol and Kramatorsk don't want to?
I already posted before how Mariupol was greeting the "liberating Ukrainian army," and how these occupational forces were treating the civilian population of Mariupol.
But I won't be lazy DKM, and will re-post it again;
( Someone is guessing here that the Ukrs are using the blank cartridges, to which the others respond; "Have you seen how many dead people are already lying on the streets? These are not "blank cartridges."
Nobody cares about 11 years ago. Its totally irrelevant. But even if it was the election in 2010 was not about leaving Ukraine or wanting to not join Europe. Do you know anyone personally who went to Yanukovich rallies and voted for him? I know many (some paid, but that's not the point). None of them are anti European and he spoke about joining the European association while campaigning in 2010. Many people who voted Yanukovich fought against your Donbas heros. They didn't want to break up the country, this is absolute make believe. Try harder. You're relying on well 8 years ago people wanted this... people changed their mind after being attacked by Russia. Come back to the current era and give me reasoned arguments about now, not 7 years ago events.
Nobody cares about 11 years ago. Its totally irrelevant. But even if it was the election in 2010 was not about leaving Ukraine or wanting to not join Europe. Do you know anyone personally who went to Yanukovich rallies and voted for him? I know many (some paid, but that's not the point). None of them are anti European and he spoke about joining the European association while campaigning in 2010. Many people who voted Yanukovich fought against your Donbas heros. They didn't want to break up the country, this is absolute make believe. Try harder. You're relying on well 8 years ago people wanted this... people changed their mind after being attacked by Russia.
I don't need to "try harder".
That map showed where the anti-government protests were taking place back in 2014.
There was none of it in the South-Eastern part of the country.
So the whole narrative of the "Ukrainians protesting against Yanukovich after he refused to sign the "EU association" is one big lie.
Meanwhile, in the town of Alexandrovka, a 71 year old man went outside of his house to feed the chicken. ( A lot of locals keep the livestock in order to survive.)
One of the hens apparently run outside of the gate, so he followed it.
He was shot by Ukrainian sniper in the head (right in the eye to be exact.)
It happened two days ago, in Donetsk suburbs.
If you ask me, these bastards are already too close to the city limits.
Nobody cares about 11 years ago. Its totally irrelevant. But even if it was the election in 2010 was not about leaving Ukraine or wanting to not join Europe. Do you know anyone personally who went to Yanukovich rallies and voted for him? I know many (some paid, but that's not the point). None of them are anti European and he spoke about joining the European association while campaigning in 2010. Many people who voted Yanukovich fought against your Donbas heros. They didn't want to break up the country, this is absolute make believe. Try harder. You're relying on well 8 years ago people wanted this... people changed their mind after being attacked by Russia. Come back to the current era and give me reasoned arguments about now, not 7 years ago events.
Nobody cares? You're wrong and pathetically ignorant. Do you have a clue of reasoning behind this conflict?
The old way isn't coming back. The crowd of angry pro soviet grandmas (hit a little close there? ) are not coming back. It's over. The only question is will Donetsk return to normalcy or will it turn into Tiraspol. A vote today would not likely go your way, as much as it might have 7 years ago.
Must have been nazi pigs who came down from Galicia and ruined a proud monument. Where are those locals who must proudly hate Europe and sneer at westerners. This can't be them in the pictures.
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